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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]15k a year does not pay for food, rent, and health care. No way in hell. Add in public transportation, childcare, and utilities and you are SOL but working 40 hours a week. Absurdly low: and explains the exponential growth in cost or government services we’ve seen since the 50’s. People cannot get by on their own labor, and it’s time to fix that.[/quote] So now you’ve added health care and child care.... Minimum wage is not and was never designed to support a family. [/quote] No health care? really? you really think people should be without health care? And if you don't let people have families, prepare for the revolution.[/quote] You can have families, but again, minimum wage is for minimum skills and not designed to be a permanent wage to raise a family on. If you can’t better yourself, that’s on you, not me. [/quote] Work. A full days work, no matter how unskilled, should be paid based on the value of the worker’s time, i.e. the cost of LIVING. Not some random person’s valuation of what their output is worth. If the job doesn’t generate enough revenue to pay for a person’s time, it’s not a job. It’s indentured servitude.[/quote] [b] Then don’t take the job. You set the value of your time, not the employer. If you take the minimum wage job, you have decided you’re only worth the minimum. It’s not a "random persons valuation" it’s yours as the employee[/b]. [/quote] Yes!!!!! Bingo!!! Ding ding ding!!! The number of people who don’t get how the at-will free market labor system works is astounding. If you can’t get someone to pay you more for your time it means they found someone else who will do that same work for less. So then you go get some other/different skills that have fewer people able or willing to do that job so that you can command more $$. A house cleaner works just as hard as a plumber. But the plumber knows that since it takes more and different training to learn the skills of a plumber (and do there are likely fewer who can perform the job of a plumber), she can demand more for her time than if she were working as a housekeeper. Of course, a plumber can also try to set their own rate at 40% higher than other plumbers charge, but that will lead to fewer jobs for that plumber because the free market allows competition. [/quote]
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