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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The President is giving you exactly what you said you welcomed. Remember the signs, the sermons we heard, the taxes we pay, the donations we make, the languages we learned, and hours of volunteering we give? Yeah - he's giving us exactly what we encouraged and support. This community can handle the needs far better than most. [/quote]

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Don't forget the marches... these immigrants will have the red carpet rolled out for them!  I actually think it's a very intriguing idea.  Funny how liberals pay lip service to all their "good deed" and virtue signal whenever humanly possible.  But when a real opportunity arrives to take in these immigrants, all of a sudden it's "punishment".  Too funny.[/quote]

[b]TRUMP thinks it’s a punishment.[/b] Are you really that dense?

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Who cares?  YOU don't think it's a punishment, right?  Or do you?  Which is it?[/quote]

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It becomes an attack on Trump when he stated the obvious.  While ICE isn't going to OFFICIALLY ship newcomers to sanctuary cities, that's where they're headed.  Mo Co, for example, is growing in diversity.

Here are some stats:
[quote]The population of Montgomery County, MD is 44.5% White, 19.1% Hispanic, and 17.8% Black. 41% of the people in Montgomery County, MD speak a non-English language, and 84.8% are U.S. citizens.[/quote]

Astute folks notice it in the schools first.  Here is a demographic chart of the MCPS schools - https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/annualreport/2017/
Hispanics make up the largest group.  Now, you'd need to examine the numbers more closely to see who's in ESOL classes, for example, in order to analyze funding and growth.  And those numbers will change from level to level, as there may be more allocated for ES than for HS, for example, depending upon shifts in the population. But we do know that the group is growing, which makes it attractive for those seeking refuge in similar communities.

[img]https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/annualreport/2017/imgs/info-demographics.png[/img]

So while "Trump thinks it's a punishment," as you so eloquently stated, do YOU think it's a punishment, too?  That's the question that's been asked again and again on these threads.

The growth is there, folks.  Liberal (and mainly coastal) cities will attract newcomers for many reasons. So how is Trump's "punishment" any different from what's ALREADY BEEN in place for YEARS?   
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I have an issue with his intentions. He intends to punish US citizens. He intends to “stick it to the libs”. It doesn’t matter if it’s actually a punishment or not. The POTUS is looking for ways to punish Dems because they disagreed with ICE funding. This is just one example of his vindictiveness.

His approval in NC is dropping. What if he withholds FEMA funding if they get another massive hurricane over that?

You probably wouldn’t have an issue with that but I would because I don’t think the POTUS should act like a vindictive, hateful a&$hole to any US citizens. But again that’s where we differ. You enjoy any chance to “stick it to the libs”. That is precisely why you put a vindictive, hateful a$$hole in the White House.

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I taught in MCPS for over half of my life.  Trump's words have really just brought to light what was ALREADY in place regarding changing demographics and funding.  What's vindictive about the truth?  Sanctuary cities provide resources for struggling folks, and they can monitor them for criminal behavior.

MCPS didn't view the additional newcomers as "punishment" - at least not when I was around.  It did all it could to ensure that ESOL was fully funded. You should know that many who arrive are illiterate. So it's like starting at ground zero - similar instruction to what a preschooler would receive. (We're talking high school here . . . ) Certainly there's a budget for ESOL, but school allocations come in a pot, and it's not unheard of to shuffle funding around if the need is there.

And I didn't put Trump in office. lol - But keep making ASSumptions w/o providing any data. At least I can find credible information for posting.  You're just angry and resentful for whatever reason.

Try working in challenging schools first.  Then let's see you post something "insightful." [/quote]

You've been teaching for over half of your life, and you think that qualifies you to spew lies about sanctuary cities?  Did you also lie to your students?

Wow.  Just wow.[/quote]

Where's the lie?[/quote]

You know where the lie is.  Don't act coy, that's just another form of dishonesty.[/quote]

no i dont please point it out.[/quote]

I am the original teacher who posted the chart.  I stand by my post.

?If you're going to call me a liar then point out my lies. There is enough evidence I've provided for your counterclaims.  That's how one argues, by the way.

But of course, as another PP said, I'm apparently a crappy teacher.  
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It was specifically pointed out that you were lying about sanctuary cities.  And you know that. [/quote]

START arguing like an intelligent grown up by pointing out what my "lies" are, genius!

You are lazy as hell - or lying yourself.

I'm out.  I have better things to do with my time on a Saturday night.

peace, genius![/quote]

Here you complete and utter moron, since you seem incapable of a basic internet search. Talk about lazy as hell.  You mis-characterized sanctuary cities.  How many ways to you need to be told?  You must be the sh*ttiest teacher ever.

Sanctuary cities in the US are about not forcing police to question people about their immigrant status, not to be confused with the usage of sanctuary cities in Europe.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city

Sanctuary city (French: ville sanctuaire; Spanish: ciudad santuario) refers to municipal jurisdictions, typically in North America and Western Europe, that limit their cooperation with the national government's effort to enforce immigration law. Leaders of sanctuary cities say they want to reduce fear of deportation and possible family break-up among people who are in the country illegally, so that such people will be more willing to report crimes, use health and social services, and enroll their children in school. In the United States, municipal policies include prohibiting police or city employees from questioning people about their immigration status and refusing requests by national immigration authorities to detain people beyond their release date, if they were jailed for breaking local law.[1] Such policies can be set expressly in law (de jure) or observed in practice (de facto), but the designation "sanctuary city" does not have a precise legal definition. The Federation for American Immigration Reform estimated in 2018 that more than 500 U.S. jurisdictions, including states and municipalities, had adopted sanctuary policies.[2]

Studies on the relationship between sanctuary status and crime have found that sanctuary policies either have no effect on crime or that sanctuary cities have lower crime rates and stronger economies than comparable non-sanctuary cities.[3][4][5][6] Opponents of sanctuary cities argue that cities should assist the national government in enforcing immigration law. Supporters of sanctuary cities argue that enforcement of national law is not the duty of localities.[7] Legal opinions vary on whether immigration enforcement by local police is constitutional.[8]

European cities have been inspired by the same political currents of the sanctuary movement as American cities, but the term "sanctuary city" now has different meanings in Europe and North America.[9] In the United Kingdom and Ireland, and in continental Europe, sanctuary city refers to cities that are committed to welcoming refugees, asylum seekers and others who are seeking safety. Such cities are now found in 80 towns, cities and local areas in England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.[10] The emphasis is on building bridges of connection and understanding, which is done through raising awareness, befriending schemes and forming cultural connections in the arts, sport, health, education, faith groups and other sectors of society.[11] Glasgow and Swansea have become known as noted sanctuary cities.[10][12][13]
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Now STFU.
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