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Anonymous wrote:The President is giving you exactly what you said you welcomed. Remember the signs, the sermons we heard, the taxes we pay, the donations we make, the languages we learned, and hours of volunteering we give? Yeah - he's giving us exactly what we encouraged and support. This community can handle the needs far better than most.

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Don't forget the marches... these immigrants will have the red carpet rolled out for them! I actually think it's a very intriguing idea. Funny how liberals pay lip service to all their "good deed" and virtue signal whenever humanly possible. But when a real opportunity arrives to take in these immigrants, all of a sudden it's "punishment". Too funny.

TRUMP thinks it’s a punishment. Are you really that dense?

Who cares? YOU don't think it's a punishment, right? Or do you? Which is it?

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It becomes an attack on Trump when he stated the obvious. While ICE isn't going to OFFICIALLY ship newcomers to sanctuary cities, that's where they're headed. Mo Co, for example, is growing in diversity.

Here are some stats:

The population of Montgomery County, MD is 44.5% White, 19.1% Hispanic, and 17.8% Black. 41% of the people in Montgomery County, MD speak a non-English language, and 84.8% are U.S. citizens.

Astute folks notice it in the schools first. Here is a demographic chart of the MCPS schools - https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/annualreport/2017/
Hispanics make up the largest group. Now, you'd need to examine the numbers more closely to see who's in ESOL classes, for example, in order to analyze funding and growth. And those numbers will change from level to level, as there may be more allocated for ES than for HS, for example, depending upon shifts in the population. But we do know that the group is growing, which makes it attractive for those seeking refuge in similar communities.



So while "Trump thinks it's a punishment," as you so eloquently stated, do YOU think it's a punishment, too? That's the question that's been asked again and again on these threads.

The growth is there, folks. Liberal (and mainly coastal) cities will attract newcomers for many reasons. So how is Trump's "punishment" any different from what's ALREADY BEEN in place for YEARS?

I have an issue with his intentions. He intends to punish US citizens. He intends to “stick it to the libs”. It doesn’t matter if it’s actually a punishment or not. The POTUS is looking for ways to punish Dems because they disagreed with ICE funding. This is just one example of his vindictiveness.

His approval in NC is dropping. What if he withholds FEMA funding if they get another massive hurricane over that?

You probably wouldn’t have an issue with that but I would because I don’t think the POTUS should act like a vindictive, hateful a&$hole to any US citizens. But again that’s where we differ. You enjoy any chance to “stick it to the libs”. That is precisely why you put a vindictive, hateful a$$hole in the White House.

Iol

I taught in MCPS for over half of my life. Trump's words have really just brought to light what was ALREADY in place regarding changing demographics and funding. What's vindictive about the truth? Sanctuary cities provide resources for struggling folks, and they can monitor them for criminal behavior.

MCPS didn't view the additional newcomers as "punishment" - at least not when I was around. It did all it could to ensure that ESOL was fully funded. You should know that many who arrive are illiterate. So it's like starting at ground zero - similar instruction to what a preschooler would receive. (We're talking high school here . . . ) Certainly there's a budget for ESOL, but school allocations come in a pot, and it's not unheard of to shuffle funding around if the need is there.

And I didn't put Trump in office. lol - But keep making ASSumptions w/o providing any data. At least I can find credible information for posting. You're just angry and resentful for whatever reason.

Try working in challenging schools first. Then let's see you post something "insightful."

You've been teaching for over half of your life, and you think that qualifies you to spew lies about sanctuary cities? Did you also lie to your students?

Wow. Just wow.

Where's the lie?

You know where the lie is. Don't act coy, that's just another form of dishonesty.

no i dont please point it out.

I am the original teacher who posted the chart. I stand by my post.

?If you're going to call me a liar then point out my lies. There is enough evidence I've provided for your counterclaims. That's how one argues, by the way.

But of course, as another PP said, I'm apparently a crappy teacher.

It was specifically pointed out that you were lying about sanctuary cities. And you know that.

START arguing like an intelligent grown up by pointing out what my "lies" are, genius!

You are lazy as hell - or lying yourself.

I'm out. I have better things to do with my time on a Saturday night.

peace, genius!

Here you complete and utter moron, since you seem incapable of a basic internet search. Talk about lazy as hell. You mis-characterized sanctuary cities. How many ways to you need to be told? You must be the sh*ttiest teacher ever.

Sanctuary cities in the US are about not forcing police to question people about their immigrant status, not to be confused with the usage of sanctuary cities in Europe.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city

Sanctuary city (French: ville sanctuaire; Spanish: ciudad santuario) refers to municipal jurisdictions, typically in North America and Western Europe, that limit their cooperation with the national government's effort to enforce immigration law. Leaders of sanctuary cities say they want to reduce fear of deportation and possible family break-up among people who are in the country illegally, so that such people will be more willing to report crimes, use health and social services, and enroll their children in school. In the United States, municipal policies include prohibiting police or city employees from questioning people about their immigration status and refusing requests by national immigration authorities to detain people beyond their release date, if they were jailed for breaking local law.[1] Such policies can be set expressly in law (de jure) or observed in practice (de facto), but the designation "sanctuary city" does not have a precise legal definition. The Federation for American Immigration Reform estimated in 2018 that more than 500 U.S. jurisdictions, including states and municipalities, had adopted sanctuary policies.[2]

Studies on the relationship between sanctuary status and crime have found that sanctuary policies either have no effect on crime or that sanctuary cities have lower crime rates and stronger economies than comparable non-sanctuary cities.[3][4][5][6] Opponents of sanctuary cities argue that cities should assist the national government in enforcing immigration law. Supporters of sanctuary cities argue that enforcement of national law is not the duty of localities.[7] Legal opinions vary on whether immigration enforcement by local police is constitutional.[8]

European cities have been inspired by the same political currents of the sanctuary movement as American cities, but the term "sanctuary city" now has different meanings in Europe and North America.[9] In the United Kingdom and Ireland, and in continental Europe, sanctuary city refers to cities that are committed to welcoming refugees, asylum seekers and others who are seeking safety. Such cities are now found in 80 towns, cities and local areas in England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.[10] The emphasis is on building bridges of connection and understanding, which is done through raising awareness, befriending schemes and forming cultural connections in the arts, sport, health, education, faith groups and other sectors of society.[11] Glasgow and Swansea have become known as noted sanctuary cities.[10][12][13]
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Now STFU.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump just wants to fill train cars with what he obviously considers to be human trash.

Anyone remember how that went last time someone did it?

Train cars that go to sanctuary cities? Are the liberals there setting up concentration camp?

Why would these sanctuary cities represent themselves as sanctuary but really be planning on extermination?

Explain.

Not PP, but carting bodies around the country for political "punishment" (as it was clearly intended) is disgusting.

You must be joking. This is exactly what the immigrants would want!! You're the one pretending it's some kind of "punishment" for them, when the reality is exactly the opposite. Free entry - with transportation - to "welcoming" cities in the U.S. Admit it.
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White House officials have tried to pressure U.S. immigration authorities to release detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities” to retaliate against President Trump’s political adversaries, according to Department of Homeland Security officials and email messages reviewed by The Washington Post.

Trump administration officials have proposed transporting detained immigrants to sanctuary cities at least twice in the past six months — once in November, as a migrant caravan approached the U.S. southern border, and again in February, amid a standoff with Democrats over funding for Trump’s border wall.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s district in San Francisco was among those the White House wanted to target, according to DHS officials. The administration also considered releasing detainees in other Democratic strongholds.

White House officials first broached the plan in a Nov. 16 email, asking officials at several agencies whether members of the caravan could be arrested at the border and then bused “to small- and mid-sized sanctuary cities,” places where local authorities have refused to hand over illegal immigrants for deportation.

The White House told U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement that the plan was intended to alleviate a shortage of detention space but also served to send a message to Democrats. The attempt at political retribution raised alarm within ICE, with a top official responding that it was rife with budgetary and liability concerns, and noting that “there are PR risks as well.”

After the White House pressed again in February, ICE’s legal department rejected the idea as inappropriate and rebuffed the administration.

I just do not have words to describe my disgust for Trump's capacity for vindictiveness and dangerous fear mongering. When will the country get rid of the monsters in WH. This news is about so many levels of wrongs. Trump wants to use the apprehended immigrants as if they are wild animals to release them in "sanctuary cities" to punish Democrats and blue states!!! WTF!

You have a chance to be Noah ! Build a huge house and take care all the illegals. Democrats have no problem importing illegals so shouldn’t be any problem keeping them in their homes and in their cities.

And we are due for some rain...

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This is exactly who we're dealing with.

Looks like a Trump supporter to me. Rabid with worry about the immigrants! The immigrants! Build the wall! Build the wall!

You can slap your ridiculous text on there, but everyone knows who is really afraid.

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Anonymous wrote:The President is giving you exactly what you said you welcomed. Remember the signs, the sermons we heard, the taxes we pay, the donations we make, the languages we learned, and hours of volunteering we give? Yeah - he's giving us exactly what we encouraged and support. This community can handle the needs far better than most.

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Don't forget the marches... these immigrants will have the red carpet rolled out for them! I actually think it's a very intriguing idea. Funny how liberals pay lip service to all their "good deed" and virtue signal whenever humanly possible. But when a real opportunity arrives to take in these immigrants, all of a sudden it's "punishment". Too funny.

TRUMP thinks it’s a punishment. Are you really that dense?

This guy has posted this a million times.

Think of the democratic response like a small child or that annoying person at work who simply wants to argue just to argue. Eventually with the small child, the parent gives in and lets them do the stupid thing they want to do. The child then figures out what they wanted was really stupid. The dumb person at work argues and is granted permission but quickly backtracks when it falls on him to complete the work by actually doing the work. They didn't want the work, they just wanted to complain.

The Trump response is the throwing of the arms in the air and saying, "fine - you don't want to work with me at all so I will thrust the problem onto your shoulders." The dem leadership has backed themselves into a corner on this one.

Great analogy and 100% correct. They're embarrassed that they can't wriggle out of this, so naturally, they blame Trump. Idiots.

You refuse to acknowledge the truth people keep spelling out to you. You are the idiots.

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Anonymous wrote:The President is giving you exactly what you said you welcomed. Remember the signs, the sermons we heard, the taxes we pay, the donations we make, the languages we learned, and hours of volunteering we give? Yeah - he's giving us exactly what we encouraged and support. This community can handle the needs far better than most.

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Don't forget the marches... these immigrants will have the red carpet rolled out for them! I actually think it's a very intriguing idea. Funny how liberals pay lip service to all their "good deed" and virtue signal whenever humanly possible. But when a real opportunity arrives to take in these immigrants, all of a sudden it's "punishment". Too funny.

TRUMP thinks it’s a punishment. Are you really that dense?

This guy has posted this a million times.

Think of the democratic response like a small child or that annoying person at work who simply wants to argue just to argue. Eventually with the small child, the parent gives in and lets them do the stupid thing they want to do. The child then figures out what they wanted was really stupid. The dumb person at work argues and is granted permission but quickly backtracks when it falls on him to complete the work by actually doing the work. They didn't want the work, they just wanted to complain.

The Trump response is the throwing of the arms in the air and saying, "fine - you don't want to work with me at all so I will thrust the problem onto your shoulders." The dem leadership has backed themselves into a corner on this one.

Great analogy and 100% correct. They're embarrassed that they can't wriggle out of this, so naturally, they blame Trump. Idiots.

Anonymous wrote:Trump just wants to fill train cars with what he obviously considers to be human trash.

Anyone remember how that went last time someone did it?

That's how you're trying to spin this? Immigrants getting a free ride on a nice coach bus to cities which (supposedly) welcome them, and you're actually trying to compare this to train cars of people destined to be exterminated?? You have really reached a new low.

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Anonymous wrote:The President is giving you exactly what you said you welcomed. Remember the signs, the sermons we heard, the taxes we pay, the donations we make, the languages we learned, and hours of volunteering we give? Yeah - he's giving us exactly what we encouraged and support. This community can handle the needs far better than most.

+1,000
Don't forget the marches... these immigrants will have the red carpet rolled out for them! I actually think it's a very intriguing idea. Funny how liberals pay lip service to all their "good deed" and virtue signal whenever humanly possible. But when a real opportunity arrives to take in these immigrants, all of a sudden it's "punishment". Too funny.

TRUMP thinks it’s a punishment. Are you really that dense?

Who cares? YOU don't think it's a punishment, right? Or do you? Which is it?

this

It becomes an attack on Trump when he stated the obvious. While ICE isn't going to OFFICIALLY ship newcomers to sanctuary cities, that's where they're headed. Mo Co, for example, is growing in diversity.

Here are some stats:

The population of Montgomery County, MD is 44.5% White, 19.1% Hispanic, and 17.8% Black. 41% of the people in Montgomery County, MD speak a non-English language, and 84.8% are U.S. citizens.

Astute folks notice it in the schools first. Here is a demographic chart of the MCPS schools - https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/annualreport/2017/
Hispanics make up the largest group. Now, you'd need to examine the numbers more closely to see who's in ESOL classes, for example, in order to analyze funding and growth. And those numbers will change from level to level, as there may be more allocated for ES than for HS, for example, depending upon shifts in the population. But we do know that the group is growing, which makes it attractive for those seeking refuge in similar communities.



So while "Trump thinks it's a punishment," as you so eloquently stated, do YOU think it's a punishment, too? That's the question that's been asked again and again on these threads.

The growth is there, folks. Liberal (and mainly coastal) cities will attract newcomers for many reasons. So how is Trump's "punishment" any different from what's ALREADY BEEN in place for YEARS?

I have an issue with his intentions. He intends to punish US citizens. He intends to “stick it to the libs”. It doesn’t matter if it’s actually a punishment or not. The POTUS is looking for ways to punish Dems because they disagreed with ICE funding. This is just one example of his vindictiveness.

His approval in NC is dropping. What if he withholds FEMA funding if they get another massive hurricane over that?

You probably wouldn’t have an issue with that but I would because I don’t think the POTUS should act like a vindictive, hateful a&$hole to any US citizens. But again that’s where we differ. You enjoy any chance to “stick it to the libs”. That is precisely why you put a vindictive, hateful a$$hole in the White House.

Iol

I taught in MCPS for over half of my life. Trump's words have really just brought to light what was ALREADY in place regarding changing demographics and funding. What's vindictive about the truth? Sanctuary cities provide resources for struggling folks, and they can monitor them for criminal behavior.

MCPS didn't view the additional newcomers as "punishment" - at least not when I was around. It did all it could to ensure that ESOL was fully funded. You should know that many who arrive are illiterate. So it's like starting at ground zero - similar instruction to what a preschooler would receive. (We're talking high school here . . . ) Certainly there's a budget for ESOL, but school allocations come in a pot, and it's not unheard of to shuffle funding around if the need is there.

And I didn't put Trump in office. lol - But keep making ASSumptions w/o providing any data. At least I can find credible information for posting. You're just angry and resentful for whatever reason.

Try working in challenging schools first. Then let's see you post something "insightful."

You've been teaching for over half of your life, and you think that qualifies you to spew lies about sanctuary cities? Did you also lie to your students?

Wow. Just wow.

Where's the lie?

You know where the lie is. Don't act coy, that's just another form of dishonesty.

no i dont please point it out.

I am the original teacher who posted the chart. I stand by my post.

?If you're going to call me a liar then point out my lies. There is enough evidence I've provided for your counterclaims. That's how one argues, by the way.

But of course, as another PP said, I'm apparently a crappy teacher.

It was specifically pointed out that you were lying about sanctuary cities. And you know that.

START arguing like an intelligent grown up by pointing out what my "lies" are, genius!

You are lazy as hell - or lying yourself.

I'm out. I have better things to do with my time on a Saturday night.

peace, genius!

The Trump supporters on here keep projecting feelings to "libs" based on what knowledge? The rantings and ravings of Tucker Carlson? Certainly NOT reality.

You don't understand what sanctuary ciy actually means.
You assume the outrage is NIMBY because your feeble brains can't understand that the actual outrage is against people used as pawns by the POTUS.

If all you have is your anti-lib fantasies, expect to be called liars and fools. Because you are.

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The right-wingers here run on emotions, don't confuse them with actual facts and logic. They just don't have the mental capacity. It's a waste of time.

Fixed that for you.

You right-wingers need to stop projecting. And lying. We see right through you.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s invade Mexico and the rest of Central America and make them part of the US. That will solve the illegal immigration problem immediately by default. After executing all the drug lords and corrupt policia, then let’s have all US citizens personally go help all the poor people we will have inheritied by requiring prior citizens to have a newly acquired Latino family live in their home and eat their food for free until they can find a legal job paying minimum wage. Any prior citizen’s family income over $75k will be forfeited to the US government and go into an “integration” fund for helping out under privileged people acquired as a result of our usurpation of Central America. Anyone complaining about this policy will be shot on site, partially to tamp down discord and partially to solve for overpopulation in our new welfare state. Sound good?

Here’s the real question, how many of the “horrified” posters on this forum are getting off their ass to go help an illegal immigrant detainee family in the next week? Yeah ... that’s what I thought. Hypocrites.

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I spent over 10 years working in public health in Montgomery county in their maternity partnership program - a program for undocumented pregnant women. There were women there who were on their FOURTH and FIFTH pregnancies on the counties dime - all of their maternity, health and dental care taken care of by the county for a nominal fee ($10-20 per appointment). I need someone here to explain to me why this is ok - why are we paying for FIVE pregnancies for some of these people?

I was getting off my ass every damn day to help these people - but seeing this shit time after time is what turned me against illegal immigration. There are citizens of Montgomery county that aren’t “poor” enough to afford county services but not “rich” enough to pay for treatment/coverage. Yet the welcome mat is rolled out to those who entered this country illegally. Can one of you please please explain to me how this makes sense?

I expect crickets because I have asked this before and gotten no response.

Anyone? Anyone at all?

I believe the GOP philosophy is that they should pick themselves up by their bootstraps.

Wrong. Our philosophy is they shouldn’t be here. Now that we are saying, fine, they can live near you, there is an uproar.

I don’t know. Ask Trump. He wants them to go there.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s invade Mexico and the rest of Central America and make them part of the US. That will solve the illegal immigration problem immediately by default. After executing all the drug lords and corrupt policia, then let’s have all US citizens personally go help all the poor people we will have inheritied by requiring prior citizens to have a newly acquired Latino family live in their home and eat their food for free until they can find a legal job paying minimum wage. Any prior citizen’s family income over $75k will be forfeited to the US government and go into an “integration” fund for helping out under privileged people acquired as a result of our usurpation of Central America. Anyone complaining about this policy will be shot on site, partially to tamp down discord and partially to solve for overpopulation in our new welfare state. Sound good?

Here’s the real question, how many of the “horrified” posters on this forum are getting off their ass to go help an illegal immigrant detainee family in the next week? Yeah ... that’s what I thought. Hypocrites.

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I spent over 10 years working in public health in Montgomery county in their maternity partnership program - a program for undocumented pregnant women. There were women there who were on their FOURTH and FIFTH pregnancies on the counties dime - all of their maternity, health and dental care taken care of by the county for a nominal fee ($10-20 per appointment). I need someone here to explain to me why this is ok - why are we paying for FIVE pregnancies for some of these people?

I was getting off my ass every damn day to help these people - but seeing this shit time after time is what turned me against illegal immigration. There are citizens of Montgomery county that aren’t “poor” enough to afford county services but not “rich” enough to pay for treatment/coverage. Yet the welcome mat is rolled out to those who entered this country illegally. Can one of you please please explain to me how this makes sense?

I expect crickets because I have asked this before and gotten no response.

Anyone? Anyone at all?

I believe the GOP philosophy is that they should pick themselves up by their bootstraps.

Wrong. Our philosophy is they shouldn’t be here. Now that we are saying, fine, they can live near you, there is an uproar.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s invade Mexico and the rest of Central America and make them part of the US. That will solve the illegal immigration problem immediately by default. After executing all the drug lords and corrupt policia, then let’s have all US citizens personally go help all the poor people we will have inheritied by requiring prior citizens to have a newly acquired Latino family live in their home and eat their food for free until they can find a legal job paying minimum wage. Any prior citizen’s family income over $75k will be forfeited to the US government and go into an “integration” fund for helping out under privileged people acquired as a result of our usurpation of Central America. Anyone complaining about this policy will be shot on site, partially to tamp down discord and partially to solve for overpopulation in our new welfare state. Sound good?

Here’s the real question, how many of the “horrified” posters on this forum are getting off their ass to go help an illegal immigrant detainee family in the next week? Yeah ... that’s what I thought. Hypocrites.

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I spent over 10 years working in public health in Montgomery county in their maternity partnership program - a program for undocumented pregnant women. There were women there who were on their FOURTH and FIFTH pregnancies on the counties dime - all of their maternity, health and dental care taken care of by the county for a nominal fee ($10-20 per appointment). I need someone here to explain to me why this is ok - why are we paying for FIVE pregnancies for some of these people?

I was getting off my ass every damn day to help these people - but seeing this shit time after time is what turned me against illegal immigration. There are citizens of Montgomery county that aren’t “poor” enough to afford county services but not “rich” enough to pay for treatment/coverage. Yet the welcome mat is rolled out to those who entered this country illegally. Can one of you please please explain to me how this makes sense?

I expect crickets because I have asked this before and gotten no response.

Anyone? Anyone at all?

I believe the GOP philosophy is that they should pick themselves up by their bootstraps.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s invade Mexico and the rest of Central America and make them part of the US. That will solve the illegal immigration problem immediately by default. After executing all the drug lords and corrupt policia, then let’s have all US citizens personally go help all the poor people we will have inheritied by requiring prior citizens to have a newly acquired Latino family live in their home and eat their food for free until they can find a legal job paying minimum wage. Any prior citizen’s family income over $75k will be forfeited to the US government and go into an “integration” fund for helping out under privileged people acquired as a result of our usurpation of Central America. Anyone complaining about this policy will be shot on site, partially to tamp down discord and partially to solve for overpopulation in our new welfare state. Sound good?

Here’s the real question, how many of the “horrified” posters on this forum are getting off their ass to go help an illegal immigrant detainee family in the next week? Yeah ... that’s what I thought. Hypocrites.

+1,000

+infinity

I spent over 10 years working in public health in Montgomery county in their maternity partnership program - a program for undocumented pregnant women. There were women there who were on their FOURTH and FIFTH pregnancies on the counties dime - all of their maternity, health and dental care taken care of by the county for a nominal fee ($10-20 per appointment). I need someone here to explain to me why this is ok - why are we paying for FIVE pregnancies for some of these people?

I was getting off my ass every damn day to help these people - but seeing this shit time after time is what turned me against illegal immigration. There are citizens of Montgomery county that aren’t “poor” enough to afford county services but not “rich” enough to pay for treatment/coverage. Yet the welcome mat is rolled out to those who entered this country illegally. Can one of you please please explain to me how this makes sense?

I expect crickets because I have asked this before and gotten no response.

Anyone? Anyone at all?