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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Haven’t read a lot of the posts, but, agree that I feel puzzled by what decade it is meant to be set in as well as location. All desolate. Constant winter. Weird light at all times. What are we supposed to be taking away from all of that? [/quote]

I've entertained the idea that the outies are all actually the first layer down in Severance world, a la The Matrix. So the real world is actually a construct, and not physical, which is why everything is slightly off, it's always winter, etc. But there are a lot of things that also contradict that idea.

I just get the impression that Mark is not a hapless victim of Lumon.[/quote]

[b]One other thing in hung up on—has there been any indication of what knowledge or information the innies vs. outties retain? I couldn’t work out that the innies believed the waterfall they saw during their outdoor adventure thingy was the biggest one in the world. They seem to possess some sort of baseline knowledge of the world-mark knew what sex was, and when we were introduced to Hellie, we didn’t see her go through some of start up programming to inform her baseline intellect. I guess I feel like I can’t reconcile that bit. Did I fall asleep at some point and miss something?[/b] [/quote]

Yeah -- I've been wondering about this too.  [/quote]

I feel like Severance rules are a little like ghost rules - why can ghosts walk through walls but don't fall through the floor? Because otherwise you don't have much of a story, really!

But I think that the severed characters retain sort of the basic knowledge of being an adult human - they know how to go to the bathroom on their own; they know how to use a computer. But they don't have the knowledge specific to their own lives.

Though actually - SPOILERS ****

That's what was being tested at Cold Harbor, right? Whether the severed character retained any knowledge of their previous life, when put into what was essentially the most tragic and emotionally wrecking situation their outie had ever experienced (that we know of). And the answer was no - they don't remember - but also Gemma clearly had something going on that led her to trust Mark and run away with him even when she didn't remember him.[/quote]
I agree that Lumon gave Gemma’s innie the worst part of her outie’s life to recreate to test the severance procedure. But how did they know her outie had had those miscarriages and had to deconstruct a crib in the first place?[/quote]

Either they weee spying on them the whole time at their house, or they interrogated Gemma about her life when she first arrived.  Maybe through torture or maybe just oretendijg to be doing therapy or something.  The dentist and the thank you notes seem like basic things that someone would say if asked “name the top five things you hate…”. The crib is so specific that it could only come up in therapy or if they were spying on them.  The fact that the crib was the exact same make/model (as was the screwdriver) suggest that they were spying on them, unless this is a Soviet type world in which there is little consumer choice so everyone owns basically the exact same stuff.  (This was one of the weirdest things for me when I lived in Russia — you’d see something that seemed very unique, like a china set with bright orange flowers, and then realize basically everyone had the exact same set because there wax on factory that made tea cups and that was the pattern they had used for a specific period of time.).  I think I tend towards Lumpn was spying on them, since it seems that Lumon had tracked Mark and Gemma as being the ideal Guinea pigs from probably a year before.  And I think we can probably also blame Gemma’s infertility and miscarriage on Lumon, since we know they have a special nyetest in breeding programs (human and goat). [/quote]

This is part of the reason why I think Lumon is a closed world and Mark and Gemma volunteered to be there, and likely volunteered to have every part of their life monitored. I hope this is going to be part of season 3.[/quote]

Did you guys not watch the Mark & Gemma episode? Everything in their world (including the place they donated blood, the fertility clinic, the little cards Gemma was looking at), they were all run by Lumon. Think of it as the Amazon of that world -- Lumon sells all sorts of goods, Lumon has a medical practice, Lumon has a pharmacy, Lumon has a security company/video feeds all over the place, Lumon has speakers in every home, it's impossible to avoid them and impossible for your life to remain private from them.[/quote]

Watching over the internet while...🤯 at the Amazon and data privacy revelation, LOL![/quote]

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