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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So is Trump going to make an example of businesses that hire undocumented workers? Wouldn’t that be an effective deterrent? If not, how come? [/quote]

Here’s the issue. As an employer I’m not allowed to question documents even if I suspect they’re false. I’m also not allowed to not hire someone based on those suspicions. You can’t make an example of me simply because my defense would be "how was I supposed to know". You can’t sue a business for questioning documents and blame them for not questioning them at the same time. [/quote]

So, since you are so anti immigration, why would you hire someone you suspect is illegal? What is he gonna do, sue you for discrimination? I think you are full of shit[/quote]

Actually yes, there are Lawyers who specialize in exactly that. Suing employers for questioning documents. There’s even a dot gov page about it.

https://www.justice.gov/crt/immigrant-and-employee-rights-section[/quote]

Aha. So the ILLEGAL immigrant will show up in court to sue you for not hiring them. Again, full of shit[/quote]

Yes, they actually the right to. It can, and does happen. Look at the rights they have under e verify

https://www.e-verify.gov/employees/employee-rights-and-responsibilities

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DP. Pretty sure an undocumented migrant is not going to out themselves by suing you in court, regardless of what e-verify says.  You still haven’t told us what kind of a business you run. Context is important.[/quote]

I own automotive detail shops. Again, undocumented workers have the right to sue and it not flag immigration.

https://www.kingsleykingsley.com/can-undocumented-workers-make-legal-claims-for-unpaid-wages

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Well yes they can sue you if you hire them and don’t pay them.  Do you think you are entitled to their labor for free?[/quote]

A page ago there was "no way" an undocumented worker was going to show up to court, now "of course they can sue you"

Well, which is it?[/quote]

Can =/= actually will

You were talking about an illegal suing you for citizenship status discrimination after giving you fake documents.  There is zero risk that would actually happen even if it’s theoretically possible.  Suing you for wage theft is entirely different.

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It happens every day in this country. There are law firms that specialize in it. They send people in with fake documents to specifically see if you mention it. I think it’s as dumb as everyone else. My point is everyone says "blame the employers" but do not realize there are laws in place to specifically tie the employers hands. It’s frustrating to get blamed for something out of my control.

I 100% think if you allowed employers to question it, it would help slow the flow. [/quote]

Can you give evidence that there are lawfirms sending people with fake documents to see if they are questioned and sue? Because it does not sound correct. Also employers can use everify if they want. Many employers know exactly their employees are undocumented. See the interview of the South Dakota dairy farmer a few days ago saying he did not believe Trump and Noem would ride his farm or other farms because they know 1) farms depend on the labor of undocumented people and 2) without undocumented workers the usa would end up with empty shelves at the grocery stores in days. Same for the construction industry. The flow would not stop if employees can question, they know exactly who they are employing but they need the employees[/quote]

I’ve posted links of law firms that advertise for it, and a link that shows even if e verify does not match, you still must hire them. You choose to ignore them because it doesn’t fit the "employers bad" narrative. You have google, educate yourself. [/quote]

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