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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I know people are just responding to brunch granny, buy beyond the inflammatory trolling, there is a grain of truth there. The 21st century economy is incompatible with raising kids with two parents in the workforce. As a result, the birth rate will continue to decline. I would love it if our society didn’t view anyone over 40 as “past it,” allowing women to have children young *if they want* and then having a career later.

I have three and needed IVF for 2. I would have loved to have 4, but it was impossible. In our 20s, my husband and I were struggling with student loans and trying to get jobs. It’s only gotten worse. [/quote]

I feel very lucky then because my husband and I both managed to work full time the entire time we were raising our kids, thanks to home daycare and an awesome nanny when the kids got older.[/quote]

I do think the trend is going to be for having kids earlier and then doing career.  That's where I think youth are headed --- lower income always have kids earlier.  Upper income have moved earlier also.  UMC/professional class next.  There will always be women having kids when older but I think you will see a trend younger soon.[/quote]

And that's fine if the rest of society stops being ageist.  Employers seem to like younger people when hiring.  The advantage older people have is experience.  So if women go back to having kids young and waiting to join the workforce, I am wondering if the men who have stayed in the workforce will be more competitive than them and of course depending on the career women will have to be content in making less money as they haven't built up their career and the qualifications they got when younger won't be as relevant by the time they have had a few years out of work and raising their family.  Of course they could put off study till later however would have to juggle study and raising a family. Possibly a way around this is part time work. So possibly when family is more expensive they will be earning less as they are re-entering the workplace.

As well as that if women are out of the workforce for all those years they will not be earning money towards their superannuation and retirement.  That's ok if they stay married but can lead to problems later, I suppose retirement funds can be divided in divorce.  There's also the problem if the marriage doesn't last and the women has kids and no career and is now divorced.  It's going back full circle, these were the issues which led to women entering the workplace.  Also most households need 2 incomes so having kids and delaying a career doesn't help with that.

However I think people are smart enough to work out what they want in their own life and one shoe doesn't fit all.

As for brunch, I love brunch to catch up with friends and family to nourish my relationships and friendships as its important to me.  I don't drink alcohol but love to get together to connect and talk.  I actually have a coffee but I don't judge others if they want a margarita.  I'm not sure why others see it so different to having lunch or dinner and why it is seen as wasting away your years. You can do brunch and still date.  Is it different for men seeing their friends for a meal and beer to watch a game at a bar?  I'm guessing it's ok for men, right?

As for granny, nuns don't have a partner or children, do you think they are wasting their life or are they ok because it's in religious pursuit and they are serving God?  Don't you think other women may choose not to have kids, not want grandkids and are not living the life you have painted.  People may not have children but can do other things which are worthwhile.  It might surprise you but the life you say you have isn't something I would choose, seriously not everyone wants that or would be fulfilled by that.  I also think some people may choose adoption or fostering however DNA seems important to you.  I guess religion can be rigid, black and white thinking, go forth and multiple etc.

I also believe that if women want children they will do that when it's right for them and that varies for everyone.  Women now have choice and that surely is a great thing.[/quote]

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