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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]“The Dobbs decision of 15 weeks” what is he even talking about 
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I think he means that Dobbs would have allowed Rs to make 15 week bans, but they went too far and it's biting them in the butt. But maybe that's not what he means.

Really this whole conversation would be so different right now if Rs had in fact just put in place a bunch of 15 week bans with exceptions for life of the mother, serious fetal issues, and cases of rape and incest. I think this issue would have largely died down by now.

But I guess give it to them, they were true believers and took their shot.[/quote]
The problem is that "the life of the mother" is subjective to Rs, and they feel that a lawyer should decide that rather than a doctor.

Look at the TX case.

Rs have created a death panel of lawyers.[/quote]

Agree. I think the country would be ok with a 15 week ban and a "health of the mother" exception.  It is otherwise impossible to know when the brink of death occurs.[/quote]

I think there was a time before Dobbs when the country would have been ok with a 15 week floor (blue states could be more permissive) and exceptions for the health of the mother and fetus, especially if those had come in coordination with steps like repealing the ban on federal funding.

Now? Not a chance. No one trusts republicans with this anymore. We’ve seen ten and twelve year old rape victims turned away from care. Women have wound up in the ICU. It’s not as bad as people thought it could be, it’s worse, and all the “we would never force raped children to have babies” rhetoric has been proven a lie.[/quote]

^ yes, this[/quote]

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