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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]“The Dobbs decision of 15 weeks” what is he even talking about 
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I think he means that Dobbs would have allowed Rs to make 15 week bans, but they went too far and it's biting them in the butt. But maybe that's not what he means.

Really this whole conversation would be so different right now if Rs had in fact just put in place a bunch of 15 week bans with exceptions for life of the mother, serious fetal issues, and cases of rape and incest. I think this issue would have largely died down by now.

But I guess give it to them, they were true believers and took their shot.[/quote]
The problem is that "the life of the mother" is subjective to Rs, and they feel that a lawyer should decide that rather than a doctor.

Look at the TX case.

Rs have created a death panel of lawyers.[/quote]

Agree. I think the country would be ok with a 15 week ban and a "health of the mother" exception.  It is otherwise impossible to know when the brink of death occurs.[/quote]
Why would anyone be OK with a 15 week ban? What does that accomplish? Right wing loses its biggest vote generator, it's still "killing babies". If you think an embryo is a person how is reducing a few weeks from Roe make a difference. This is typical "moderate" view of policy. Hey, let’s' make Right wing policy seem less likely and maybe we can get more votes. Sorry. A ban is a ban is a ban.[/quote]
+1 And the 15-week national ban proposed by Republicans will leave in place all of the laws in red states that ban abortion earlier in pregnancy and will only affect the states that have laws that have expanded reproductive rights. Also the 15 week number is based on nothing - not viability, not trimesters, just vibes. [/quote]

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