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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This thread has gotten away from.discussing the podcast. Has anyone listened to the last episode, #5? We are in Brooklyn. Our mixed race middle class kids go to an Elementary school in District 15, which includes Cobble Hill.  My older kid will be entering Middle School next year and will benefit from the lottery system the nice white parents in D15 fought for, so I thank them for that. I am grateful for not having my kids prepare portfolios or prep for auditions and interviews.

I  know that soon after the lottery was implemented, everyone was congratulating themselves with the racial percentages of seat offers. But the real change could only be measured by who accepted their seats. So far,.it does look like the lottery moved the needle a.bit - the two Middle Schools that were almost all Black or Latino now have some white and Asian students. But the reason why D15 will likely be a success is because most of the schools are good and the administrators are savvy about how to get resources and money for their schools. The true measure of success will be seeing how all of these students perform grade and testwise, at least to me.[/quote]

And you fail to mention that not every family accepted the seat they were assigned in the D15 lottery. You also fail to mention that over the past two years D15 middle school enrollment has declined. You also fail to mention that many parents were not as enthusiastic about the changes as you were, especially those who value screened academic programs. If you want a project-based progressive education for your child, then NYC is the place for you, but for the rest of us it's time to move unless Eric Adams puts a stop to this far-left nonsense.[/quote]

I'm the PP. I thought I had addressed your first two points. The true results were that it moved the needle a bit racially, meaning that some white families accepted seats in schools with lower white enrollment, so that was a little bit of an improvement. I also don't know if I would characterize myself as "enthusiastic" about the changes but on the whole positive. I was not looking forward to the auditions, portfolio presentations and interviews as I previously mentioned, and I don't know any other families who were happy about that in the past. From what I gathered from parents who were in the Middle School selection process over the last couple of years, they were fearful of being sent to an underperforming school or one that did not work for their kid's interests or commute. Most of the parents I spoke with the first year of the lottery were meh about Tue results - some went to charters and some went to private, but most were pleased (they got one of their top three picks). Last year most of the families were pleased - maybe because they knew better what to expect and they had a game plan. It's our turn this year, and I'm feeling reassured about our D15 options both public and charter. I dont know if i could say definitively that families have left the NYC school system entirely because of the lottery system; it might be that but more likely the effects of the pandemic (leaving the city for work, bigger homes, to be with family; leaving for private and charters that gk remote less often or have fewer school shut downs, etc.). Your reply to me came off a little hot, I hope that is my misreading of it. But I don't see why Adams would reverse the D15 Middle School lottery process.I would not consider myself or my husband far left. We really appreciate the DOE's G&T program and think it should be revised and improved rather than scrapped.[/quote]

No, you didn't misread my comments. Those of us who live in Manhattan are not as enthusiastic about these changes as the D15 crowd.[/quote]
Tying this conversation back to MoCo Maryland for a second, the whole D15 thing is why many of us saw MCPS's decision to hire WXY to conduct the boundary analysis as one of the first steps of a busing plan.  Busing is what WXY does.[/quote]

The imaginary busing plan again? This was never proposed just a far-right conspiracy theory.[/quote]
Oh the irony.  This whole thread is about the busing plan that WXY devised and implemented in NYC and you're pretending that they weren't brought in to MCPS to do the same thing.  You're laughable.[/quote]

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