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That's why many low-income Americans will choose Trump. They feel left out with the current favoritism of illegals by the Democrat party.[/quote]

Mostly just the white ones. Non-white low income Americans by and large favor the Democrats. So, Trump support is mostly a function of being white; not being poor. [/quote]

I’m not white and also not poor and am closer to Trump than to the current crop of Dems on immigration. I loathe Trump and don’t think I can bring myself to vote for him, but I might sit out the election (as a PA voter) if the Democratic candidate is too far left on immigration. And there are lots more like me. [/quote]

Then you're completely gullible and have fallen for the Bannon/Miller long play to inflate immigration into a voting issue.  Please, think more critically. [b]What the Democrats are reacting to is the Trump administration's purposefully vicious acts -- arbitrarily pulling visas on the basis of religion; separating children; putting children in detention camps instead of better shelters.  They did this on purpose, to get a reaction out of Democrats, so they in turn could create the specter of the "emergency at the border" and claim that the Democrats' reaction TO THEIR VICIOUSNESS constitutes being "too far left on immigration."[/b]

So please, actually look at the record of the Democratic party on immigration, as well as the candidates. Literally nobody is calling for open borders.  [/quote]

DP.  Wow, you've really fallen hard for the propaganda of the left, haven't you?  You *actually* believe the bolded.  Aren't you the party who thinks you're so much better educated than everyone else?  Hint:  you're not - and it shows.[/quote]

You need to wake up and stop with the right wing propaganda. The bolder by the pp is the truth. [/quote]

What you view as “truth” is absolutely left wing propaganda. Only someone completely brainwashed would believe this administration somehow “engineered” the very real border crisis in order to “get a reaction” from Democrats.  Unbelievable that you actually believe this insanity.[/quote]

The difference is the reaction -- there was a surge in crossings under the Obama administration, but he reacted humanely, not by demonizing them.

And although crossings were at a comparative high in 2019, they are still at a historical low overall:  https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-illegal-border-crossing-20190307-story.html

Everyone engages in propaganda, but there's one side of this debate that is engaging in xenophobia-stoking propaganda, against a background of increasingly violent white nationalism world-wide.  And it's not the Democrats.

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Sorry, I disagree entirely with your assertion that those of us who want strict border control are somehow "xenophobic."  That's just a convenient word for you to trot out when you have no other rebuttal.  Countries have every right to decide who can and cannot enter - the US is no different.  LEGAL, highly-skilled immigrants from all over the world make this country a great place by contributing to our economy.  Period.[/quote]

:roll: well, you're not demonstrating great reading skills.  NOBODY, not a single candidate of any party, is arguing for open borders.  try again.  [/quote]

Which candidate supports ICE complying with the deportation orders for criminals that have already been issued by judges once rendered years after an illegal entry? Which candidate supports ICE doing its job after people cross the border? Not one which is effectively open borders.

A woman drinks from a toilet and AOC losses her sh*t as people in multiple cities are stepping in human sh*t. Privilege.

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I realize that your lack of cognitive abilities makes it difficult for you to keep pace with arguments, but just try.

This thread is in response to GOP-propaganda claiming that the Democrats are for "open borders."  Not about deportation of criminal aliens.

And for what it's worth - focusing resources on deporting criminal aliens was an OBAMA ERA policy.  [b]The Trump focus on  taking babies away from moms TOOK MONEY AWAY from focusing on deporting the really bad guys[/b].

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This can’t possibly be a serious post.  [/quote]

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