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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]first it was racism/that's racist now it's white fragility

terms used by people who can't win arguments and use made up words to shut down debate

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So you believe that racism is just a made up word made up to shut down debate?  How breathtakingly ignorant of you.  Apparently you have never heard of slavery, 10,000 people killed by lynching, sundown towns, the dozens of massacres of blacks during reconstruction, redlining, housing discrimination, employment discrimination, Jim Crow, poll tests, grandfather clauses, ongoing wage, school discipline, policing and employment discrimination as well as all of the other facets of institutionalized racism I linked to above.

Congrats.  You win the prize for stupidest post ever on DCUM.
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congrats you play the victim card extremely well.  Here's a tip instead of waiting for your reparations check try and make something of your life.  It's 2019

my original point if someone uses racisim white privilege white fragility it is just a tactic to shut down debate and avoid having an actual logical conversation[/quote]

Poster that you're responding do. I'm a white male in my 50s.  I own a tech firm and have more money than I will ever really need, as will my kids.  Housing discrimination, wage discrimination, voter suppression, unequal policing and all of the facets of institutional racism that i linked to previously are alive and well and getting worse in 2019.    Your followup was not quite as stupid as your original, but close.[/quote]

NP. Well, rich white dude thanks for for richsplaining struggles to the rest of us.

Here we are, a bunch of families who cannot afford private schools, seemingly fighting over incomprehensibly limited resources that force high-schoolers 4 grades apart to go to the same physics class. Half of them are calling the other half racist. Noting that we're in DC, an overwhelmingly liberal city. You KNOW that PP does not think that racism is just a made-up word. You KNOW that she has heard of all the horrors that have taken place in our country in the past. You also probably know that all she wants is for her kid to be taught physics at a level that will help him grow.

And that's when you seagull drop in to anonymously virtue signal and call someone stupid, twice.[/quote]

+1.  Well said.

[b]Nobody here thinks racism doesn’t exist; we all know its pernicious effects.[/b]

The question is whether HFA repairs some harms of racism — which it is apparently is intended to do.  If so, if HFA does, in fact, repair some harms of racism, then 
(1) do the benefits outweigh the collateral negative impacts? 
(2) is it the principal’s place to favor the needs of some students over others as a cost of pursuing a social or political goal? 
(3) is their a more effective way to solve this problem, like adding more intensive support in elementary or middle school, changing the ‘tracking’ process to incorporate relevant testing, etc etc.[/quote]

Rich white dude here.  Should mention that I'm also a Wilson dad.  I agree with most of what you wrote, except for the bolded.  I am not convinced that HFA is a good idea,   but I think we need to acknowledged that HFA is designed to address the racial achievement gap.  A bunch of the (apparently white) PPs on this thread have repeatedly made the following points:

1. The "common sense" approach used previously was fine (an approach in which some schools recommended zero students for honors).
2. We know racism was a problem [b]in the past.[/b]
3. White privilege and white fragility are not real.

Until we white parents who disagree with HFA can approach discussions of the topic with recognition that:

1. racism is an ongoing problem TODAY
2. we are coming from a place of relative privilege 
3. by and large, as a group we tend to be really uncomfortable talking about racism today and our role in it

I think attempts to come together as a community to address these issues won't succeed.  To me, the rancor and craziness of this thread (e.g. folks saying that I'm a sock puppet for calling out blatant racism -- and Jeff, if you are reading this thread, feel free to weigh in on this based on server logs) illustrate point 3 above really clearly.  We've gotta get past this in order to have the conversations that lead to your point 3.[/quote]

You distort every point ever so slightly to create the adversary you wish you had so you can be the good guy. Typical privileged white dude yelling at not privileged white dudes to watch their privilege.

Racism is absolutely a problem today. It is not, however, the driver of 90% of the decisions or opinions that posters on DCUM like to call racist. In the rare occasions that one accepts that it isn't the driver, one brings up the definition of racism that makes it an institutional problem. Therefore if your statement or action isn't actively anti-racist or seeking equity, it is racist. That isn't sustainable.

I didn't see the PP you bullied say that racism and white privilege don't exist. She did say that they are used as just a tactic to shut down debate. Just because a baseball bat is used as a weapon doesn't mean it isn't also bona fide sports equipment.

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