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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It actually won’t save us in the long run. The resources to do this costs money and the lost economic benefits cost money- it is a lose-lose to stroke your hate. [/quote]

You are correct (see below). But it's never been about the money. Americans have been railing against certain groups of migrants since our founding.

Studies estimate mass deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants costs $315-$967.9 billion, with detention alone at $167.8 billion. They contribute $96.7 billion annually in taxes, potentially rising to $136.9 billion with work authorization. Legalization could add $1.5-$1.7 trillion to GDP over 10 years. From a financial perspective, legalizing undocumented immigrants is more beneficial.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org
https://unidosus.org
https://itep.org

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Yes, it's very expensive and due process takes a very long time. Such a shame that  Biden and his cohorts thought it was okay to allow millions to cross the border with little to no vetting and then allow them to get lost in the system and give birth to anchor babies reside in sanctuary cities, go free with little to no bail if they committed crimes, enroll kids in school with no questions asked, etc.  [/quote]

Biden was following international and US law. The courts overtuned tools that Trump had used so Biden didn't have the same legal discretion. That is why the bi-partisan bill was needed, to fix the rules and add funding for more administrative judges to hear these cases more expediently. The bill also would have funded fentenyl scanners at the border. But trump got the GOP to tank the bill, so we still don't have a good solution. But unleashing ICE and flouting Habeas Corpus are not good solutions.[/quote]

PP here. It is a huge problem, for sure; but Democrats who minimize the impact (many on this forum) are likely not impacted by the burden placed on social services, hospitals, and schools. [/quote]

PP left out that the border would remain open to thousands streaming across until it could be closed.  If it had required the border be closed completely, Trump might have supported it (but Democrats wouldn't).[/quote]

Yes all those Texas Republicans would line up behind closing the border. You live in a fantasy world.[/quote]

Umm, they did and support Trump doing just that.[/quote]

No there are thousands of people and goods crossing the board each day. Greg Abbott tried to shut down the border with some scheme and caused huge backups at the border. I guess bribes were paid and Abbott quickly let cross border traffic resume. Though not before a good chunk of traffic started going to other states’ boarding crossings. Though border businesses in Texas still have not recovered from that fiasco. [/quote]

Abbott put his own police officers at the border when Biden refused to control the flow of people. He installed buoys in the Rio Grande to discourage people from crossing. Last I checked he is a Republican.[/quote]

It's not necessarily that Biden refused to control the flow. He just removed certain band aid protocols that were in place to control the flow before there was appropriate long term fix legislation in place to control the flow. His actions or inaction in that regard is inexplicable. Not as troubling as when Trump sat in The White House for 3 hours and ignored pleas for his help as a mob of hundreds were seeking to hang his VP but Biden's failures in this regard are troubling as well.[/quote]

He deliberately refused to control the flow. If he or Harris had won on 2024, the next move would've been mass amnesty of those millions for sure.[/quote]

No, he did not deliberately refuse to control the flow. That is a right wing BS talking point. He didn't have the same tools Trump had because they were struck down in court. The fix is legislative and there was a deal on the table that gave the GOP 80% of what it wanted. Both Biden and Harris said they would sign it. Trump never said he would. He doesn't want a fox that solves the problem. He prefers storm troopers and the suspension of due process for ALL AMERICANS as well as anyone else, despite the plain words in the US Constitution.

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Biden definitely refused to control it. Within weeks of January 2025, the border numbers are down 94% without a single new law being passed. When you let people know you are serious about security, they listen. Biden and all Democrats essentially say that they care about border security and then turn the other way with a proverbial wink and let in millons flow across the border.

You are mixing issues. There is no due process suspended for Americans at the border.[/quote]

The overwhelming amounts of asylum seekers crossing the border in 2021 and 2022 can fairly be blamed on Biden as he did next to nothing to help the situation. The 2023 legislation would have helped to some degree so Trump and the GOP can fairly be blamed for border issues in part of 2023 and 2024.[/quote]

And despite that, Bidem got the border to 2019 levels, you know, pre-COVID when Trump was president.[/quote]

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