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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You right-wingers are idiots. Vouchers aren’t accepted at reputable private schools and don’t even come close to covering tuition at any decent private.

Vouchers are a Republican scam to get federal funds to religious organizations that run so-called schools. [/quote]

Wow you're entitled: "If the voucher is not accepted at elite private, why do we have a voucher program?!?"
Reminder: We have lots of other (non big-3) private schools which the families already prefer to their local public schools. [/quote]

You likely won't be eligible for vouches anyway. There will be an income based test, guaranteed. And if you do get vouchers, you will not like the schools where you can use them. [b]So instead, the money will go from the federal government into the pockets of mostly for-profit schools through the hands of extremely underprivileged kids who would have had better supports had they stayed in public school.[/b]

I love the way they make a voucher program sound in theory, but that is so laughably far from what it would actually be that it should be unethical to spout the voucher nonsense you hear. You imagine the federal government is going to hand you a check, and you will turn around and give it to the school of your dreams and waltz right in: that will never happen. And logistically, if every kid in the country gets one, where are they all going to go? And how different would it end up being from where they all are now? Think it through on the full scale, not the fantasy you have imagining yourself in the world as it is now suddenly having a few extra bucks. Whoever accepts your voucher will be regulated and have to prove they are not discriminating in admissions and are meeting the needs of all students with that tax payer money, and guess how schools do that? Affirmative action and standardized testing. [/quote]

I don't think we can make that assumption. You are looking at the worst case possibility, and generalizing it. There will be good apples and bad apples. People have their public school if they want, or the voucher for the private if they want. What is wrong with that scenario? Nothing![/quote]

Without some mechanism to weed out the bad apples there will be more than a few who are just out for profit. There needs to be some mechanism for oversight to ensure bad actors aren’t creating an even worse education for kids. http://rethinkingschools.org/articles/keeping-public-schools-public-free-market-education/[/quote]

FYI: There are bad public schools. We are not using that fact as an excuse to get rid of all public schools. When people are constrained within their zipcode, the public school (which may be bad) has a stream of students anyway and not much incentive to improve itself.

Give choice to eligible families, and see where they choose to send their kids.  [/quote]

True, but syphoning money from public schools to con artists can’t be a good idea. I support the idea
of vouchers but only if the schools have to go through some sort
of accreditation process to be sure they are actually educating kids and not just lining their pockets with government funds. You just have to read the Whittle thread to see how easy it is to use smoke and mirrors to convince people to give you money to educate their kids. Reputable private schools are accredited. If you truly believe in giving parents a choice about where to send their kids, shouldn’t you also believe that those schools should be held to some basic standards?[/quote]

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