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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Where's all the wonderful church charity that red state christian conservatives like to tout as the reason why government shouldn't tax and spend for social programs?  Maybe we should send the homeless to THEM.[/quote]

Wow. I'm speechless. My parents are those people and I just got off the phone with them, stroking their annual checks to all kinds of charities. They don't say the government shouldn't spend for social programs - thats such a simplification. And they do contribute to charity, both checks and personally opening their home to their neighbor. Do you?[/quote]

What oversimplification?  Conservatives have steadfastly blocked social spending as "free stuff for moochers."  That's completely undeniable.  There have been innumerable times where I confronted self professed conservative Christians on taking care of the homeless and why they think government should not be doing social spending and they insisted that it's for the church to do it but not for government.  What bills for social programs for the homeless have Republicans sponsored?  I'm speechless that you're claiming to be 'speechless.'  You seem either clueless or in deep denial.

And tell me, how many homeless has Joel Osteen housed?  That's the kind of place so many "checks to charity" end up...[/quote]

I'm speechless that you don't think conservatives give to charities or that churches provide services. They both do. You can ask for enhanced government services without slamming one of the most giving groups on the planet. American conservatives personally donate more $ to other people than any other group on the planet. And churches also do a lot. Are there awful charities and awful churches sure - but also good ones. No need to swipe at those doing good work.[/quote]

Donating a few dollars to a church is much less than if you had to pay more in taxes to fund proper social services. That's why anti-tax conservatives love charities. It allows them to pretend they're generous when in fact they're getting away with pennies on the dollar.[/quote]

Except they pay taxes and give to charities, unlike those miserly Dems LOL[/quote]

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