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Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless are from dc or md. Few others may be originally from elsewhere, but moved to dc for work and lost their jobs.

Most from DC? What percentage, and where did you get that data? I ask because I hear a lot of non-DC accents among the homeless.

And how many who came here did in fact merely lose their jobs, no other issues like mental illness or addiction? If that's truly the case then why isn't anyone back home helping them get back on their feet?

There are very few Americans from outside the dmv area. Those a few who lost jobs. Who knows why tose back home don't help. Maybe they grew up in multiple states, maybe they are seeking other employment here, waiting on retirement, it could be a number of reasons. It doesn't matter, there are so few of those Americans. The large outsider population are the illegals. Sounds like their family members have never been successful either and aren't in a position to help them. These people come here for the US social services.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless are from dc or md. Few others may be originally from elsewhere, but moved to dc for work and lost their jobs.

The other large non dc homeless contingent is from latin america. Are you suggesting deporting them and sending them home? If not, it wouldn't be fair to refuse services to americans not from dc, but serve illegals and greencard holders who overwhelm our social services.

Why should we allow undocumented people to illegally sleep on our streets?

No country that I am aware of would allow this.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless are from dc or md. Few others may be originally from elsewhere, but moved to dc for work and lost their jobs.

Most from DC? What percentage, and where did you get that data? I ask because I hear a lot of non-DC accents among the homeless.

And how many who came here did in fact merely lose their jobs, no other issues like mental illness or addiction? If that's truly the case then why isn't anyone back home helping them get back on their feet?

Sorry, i left out the illegal population and green card holders. The accents are i largely illegals. DC loves and welcomes illegals.

Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless are from dc or md. Few others may be originally from elsewhere, but moved to dc for work and lost their jobs.

The other large non dc homeless contingent is from latin america. Are you suggesting deporting them and sending them home? If not, it wouldn't be fair to refuse services to americans not from dc, but serve illegals and greencard holders who overwhelm our social services.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless are from dc or md. Few others may be originally from elsewhere, but moved to dc for work and lost their jobs.

So two things -

"And MD.." far as I know, that's not DC

Most lost their jobs? Let's unpack that.

So two things --

Poster said "or md" -- and you are right it is not DC but the fact that homeless are from Maryland and ended up in DC is rlevant.

Most lost their jobs? Happy to help you unpack the number of lost jobs that occurred during Covid. Just because there is a need for workers, doesn't mean that everyone can fill that need.

What a joke. We have had unprecedented eviction moratoriums, enhanced unemployment, etc. The people living in tents are not COVID refugees.

There is a woman, with two small kids, camping out in front of union station. She is right by the outer rim of the circle. If I see her again, I will call CPS, the city has to patrol these places to protect the children.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless are from dc or md. Few others may be originally from elsewhere, but moved to dc for work and lost their jobs.

Most from DC? What percentage, and where did you get that data? I ask because I hear a lot of non-DC accents among the homeless.

And how many who came here did in fact merely lose their jobs, no other issues like mental illness or addiction? If that's truly the case then why isn't anyone back home helping them get back on their feet?

DC creates the problems, let DC deal with the problems. IMHO they should be dumped in front of the Capitol and let the law makers deal with what they begat.

That is, without a doubt, the most moronic thing anyone has said in this thread. You should be embarrassed, PP.

First of all, DC didn't create the problem. DC does not even have federal representation. DC residents create NO federal policy of any kind. DC has no say in anything anyone does other than within city limits. Instead, policy is created by people from the REST of the country, THEY are the ones coming to DC making federal policy. Learn some damn civics, PP. Don't post idiotic nonsense in a politics board if you are that ignorant.

Secondly, whose fault is it? Most of the homeless are mentally ill or have other serious issues and can't hold down a job because of those disabilities. So are you going to blame them? Is it their own fault that they are mentally ill? Which party has ever bothered to actually try and help them? Republicans? Hell no. What Republican policies have ever done anything for the homeless? If anything, Republican policies have only ever resulted in cutting funds for mental health treatment and social programs to try and keep the homeless from starving in the street.

If they should be sent anywhere it should be send them to the offices and front yards of Republican members of Congress until they finally get the idea that having mentally ill people freezing and starving in the street isn't a good thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless are from dc or md. Few others may be originally from elsewhere, but moved to dc for work and lost their jobs.

Most from DC? What percentage, and where did you get that data? I ask because I hear a lot of non-DC accents among the homeless.

And how many who came here did in fact merely lose their jobs, no other issues like mental illness or addiction? If that's truly the case then why isn't anyone back home helping them get back on their feet?

DC creates the problems, let DC deal with the problems. IMHO they should be dumped in front of the Capitol and let the law makers deal with what they begat.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless are from dc or md. Few others may be originally from elsewhere, but moved to dc for work and lost their jobs.

So two things -

"And MD.." far as I know, that's not DC

Most lost their jobs? Let's unpack that.

So two things --

Poster said "or md" -- and you are right it is not DC but the fact that homeless are from Maryland and ended up in DC is rlevant.

Most lost their jobs? Happy to help you unpack the number of lost jobs that occurred during Covid. Just because there is a need for workers, doesn't mean that everyone can fill that need.

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Anonymous wrote:I think we should buy them all a first class ticket to San Francisco.

That's how most of San Francisco's homeless already ended up in San Francisco.

Then there's this from SF. Also, NYC just increased it's budget for the homeless to 2 billion dollars. There are approximately 80,000 homeless in NYC. Do the math. It is nothing but a big money grab by NGOs who pretend to be the solution. This is why we need more oversight and less just throwing money at the problem.

"A homeless encampment run by San Francisco costs the city $60,000 per year, per tent, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

The city’s six “safe sleeping villages,” provide homeless people tents, three meals per day, security and washrooms.

The city is looking to renew the program for a cost of about $57,000 per tent, of which there are about 260.

The Chronicle noted that if the funding is approved, the city will be paying about twice the median cost of a one-bedroom apartment for each tent."

Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless are from dc or md. Few others may be originally from elsewhere, but moved to dc for work and lost their jobs.

Most from DC? What percentage, and where did you get that data? I ask because I hear a lot of non-DC accents among the homeless.

And how many who came here did in fact merely lose their jobs, no other issues like mental illness or addiction? If that's truly the case then why isn't anyone back home helping them get back on their feet?

Anonymous wrote:I think we should buy them all a first class ticket to San Francisco.

That's how most of San Francisco's homeless already ended up in San Francisco.

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Anonymous wrote:Where's all the wonderful church charity that red state christian conservatives like to tout as the reason why government shouldn't tax and spend for social programs? Maybe we should send the homeless to THEM.

Wow. I'm speechless. My parents are those people and I just got off the phone with them, stroking their annual checks to all kinds of charities. They don't say the government shouldn't spend for social programs - thats such a simplification. And they do contribute to charity, both checks and personally opening their home to their neighbor. Do you?

What oversimplification? Conservatives have steadfastly blocked social spending as "free stuff for moochers." That's completely undeniable. There have been innumerable times where I confronted self professed conservative Christians on taking care of the homeless and why they think government should not be doing social spending and they insisted that it's for the church to do it but not for government. What bills for social programs for the homeless have Republicans sponsored? I'm speechless that you're claiming to be 'speechless.' You seem either clueless or in deep denial.

And tell me, how many homeless has Joel Osteen housed? That's the kind of place so many "checks to charity" end up...

I'm speechless that you don't think conservatives give to charities or that churches provide services. They both do. You can ask for enhanced government services without slamming one of the most giving groups on the planet. American conservatives personally donate more $ to other people than any other group on the planet. And churches also do a lot. Are there awful charities and awful churches sure - but also good ones. No need to swipe at those doing good work.

Donating a few dollars to a church is much less than if you had to pay more in taxes to fund proper social services. That's why anti-tax conservatives love charities. It allows them to pretend they're generous when in fact they're getting away with pennies on the dollar.

Except they pay taxes and give to charities, unlike those miserly Dems LOL

Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless are from dc or md. Few others may be originally from elsewhere, but moved to dc for work and lost their jobs.

So two things -

"And MD.." far as I know, that's not DC

Most lost their jobs? Let's unpack that.

Most of the homeless are from dc or md. Few others may be originally from elsewhere, but moved to dc for work and lost their jobs.