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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I honestly think he’s going to walk free. He probably won’t even make it to trial.

Is there any confirmation that the boyfriend has her phone? Physical evidence?

I have not yet seen any proof that he was in possession of her phone. [/quote]

I don’t think it’s been released publicly as far as the whereabouts of the phone. If I had to speculate, I would speculate he did not have it in his possession on the 11th when the van was seized. We do know no known contacts of Gabby were called or FaceTimed after Aug 25, but there were some very basic texts that didn’t seem characteristic of her usual contact. The family and friends are speculating these were sent by someone using her phone. If so, that doesn’t necessarily mean they would maintain possession of the phone after that.

If they were able to seize the phone with the van that would be great, especially if someone was able to unlock it. It could provide them with a lot of information quickly without having to wait for warrants and interpreting reports from the service side of the phone.

But again, speculation, my guess is they don’t have the physical device and it is currently not able to be tracked.

I would also say based on the body cam video, it seems unlikely Gabby would have walked away without her phone. That’s not the behavior we see in the video.

There is still a lot of information they will get from the service end. It takes time. They were also in some locations where cell service towers might be sparse which could make narrowing down locations harder (but obviously, would give a general location if the phone was accessing just about anything). I don’t know much about these type of vans vs more common passenger vehicles, but many newish cars actually have a lot of tracking data that can be accessed from the back end by investigators even when people don’t know it or haven’t enabled certain services from the user end.

Gabby last text indicated she was in Yosemite (CA) on the 30th (at least, that was when the text was received) and didn’t have service. The location of her phone at that time isn’t publicly known, although I’m sure it will be known to investigators soon. Boyfriend arrived in FL on Sept 1st, according to all reports so that’s somehow verified. He had the van upon arrival. So obviously those two locations are extremely improbable since they were only known to have one vehicle.

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