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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Two women who worked at the co-op where the missing girl and her bf were fighting were found murdered while camping in the area. A man with an arsenal of weapons is the suspect.

She might have been killed by that other guy. That’s what the police are looking into now.

Check out the Daily Mail.[/quote]

That's my problem.  He is a dirt bag and abusive, but that doesn't mean he killed her.  [/quote]

Wait - we know SHE was physically abusing him! (and he didn’t fight back apparently).

plus she admits she is mentally ill on the video, she knows it, but she isn’t being treated.

She was probably abusing him mentally and emotionally too.  If anyone here can be described as “abusive,” all the evidence points to her as the abuser.[/quote]

Respectfully, we don't know she was abusing him. We know she slapped him but the police determined the situation did not rise to the definition of aDV. Additionally, all the other facts point to her as having much less power in the relationship.  When the police interview her in the beginning, she cries and says he doesn't support her, he told her she was incapable of running a blog, and that she makes him upset. She accused him of literally NOTHING. Abusers don't see themselves as the problem and don't cry about making not living up to the other person's standards. Both of them discuss that he locked her out of the car. And the reason he is upset is that he wants to go hiking while she wanted to clean and work. He claims she is OCD and constantly cleaning, yet when they open the van we can see that the van is a total mess. And when they describe the fight I front of the Coop restaurant, she said she was concerned he would take (her) van and leave her there with no ride.

Yes she slapped him.  But given the totality of facts, it's pretty clear he's the dominant one. He even presses the cops to reveal what she said about him- "hopefully she didn't say anything too bad about me".

Finally, he returned to Florida in HER vehicle and went around with it like it was his. He made no attempts to return her vehicle to the family or to her. Great, she slapped him-- I guess she's an imperfect victim, like everyone else. [/quote]

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