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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]And it turns out the kids there aren't even elite for the most part they simply purchased many expensive prep lessons where they were coached and given answers. So I have to agree with the PP.[/quote]

They also mostly had straight As with a near 4.0 GPA average. Test prep was a part of it, and there is some privilege that was necessary for that.

But they were also near universally good and hardworking students. Test prep alone wouldn’t get you into TJ. Stop with the strawman.

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That test prep is the real difference maker is such a myth.  Brilliant, hard-working kids get in to TJ.  Average kids that take prep classes do not.  That has always been the case until this year.  [/quote]

Except when the fakes make it clear that it is the difference-maker. Curie alone accounts for over 30% of those who got admitted and that's just one place. This whole thread was about people buying the answers. All the evidence indicates otherwise and the majority of parents whose kids are getting in seem to agree or they wouldn't be spending so much on tutors, aops, rsm and test prep.[/quote]
My kids went to TJ, they did prep, the prep center didn't hand them any answers to them, they only teach on how to solve problems. Don't troll on fake news.[/quote]

I know but let's be honest they also would've had no chance at admission without those prep classes. [/quote]

It does raise the bar and makes a resource more scarce for those who can least afford it and to effectively require private prep to unlock opportunities from a public school does seem wrong.[/quote]

Here we go again - this argument always circles back to travel league sports, private musical instruments lessons, etc.  Basically, anything that has a tryout is a scarce resource and any practice you pay for is therefor "prep."    [/quote]

The fact that both TJ and athletic team spaces are scarce resources does not make them worthy of comparison.

But if you do want to compare them, you should know that different coaches or instructors have different standards for how they select their teams, and have every right to do so.[/quote]

DP. Why can't they be compared? Is that because mostly white parents pay for travel sports prep?

And so far no evidence has been provided that the TJ prep is necessary for admission. Just because one prep center publish some names, it doesn't mean that's the reason those kids got in. The prep center would like you to think so but there is no evidence to back it up. Getting into semifinalist pool is a very low bar.

Academics is one thing that money can't buy. Otherwise white parents wouldn't resort to cheating to raise their kids' SAT scores. All you need for academic success are work ethics and some books.[/quote]
White parents pay for travel sports? Asian, Black, Latino and whoever has kids playing are paying for travel sports prep.[/quote]

Travel sports are actually one of the most diverse cohorts in Northern Virginia. And by diverse I don't mean "all Black and Hispanic kids". I mean legitimately diverse with kids from tons of different areas and populations.[/quote]

When was the last time you went to an elite swim meet?[/quote]

When was the last time you went to anything else? I'm not saying ALL travel sports are diverse individually, but when you put them all together, you get a pretty decent mix of kids. And there are plenty of Chinese, Korean, and Indian kids out there too - much to the chagrin of the racists on here who are convinced that their cohorts do nothing but study all day.[/quote]

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