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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] Nope. Not an elite. Never even cracked $100k. But I've taken modest vacations, buy at Target, and replaced cars once every 12 years or so I can comtribute the full amoimt to my 401k. I have $500,000 now. Hardly elite - but someone who twkes responsibility for herself and wants to build a nice retirement. I am typical of millions of others - hard-working middle Americans who sacrifice now for a comfortable future. The out-of-work blue collar workers still get benefits, provided by my taxes, like food stamps, housing subsidize, free Medicaid, etc. Nobody's forgotten about them. But unlike libs, we don't direct 100% of our focus to poor people and ignore - or make worse - the situation with the middle class. Why are you happy that the middle class is more likely to have a good retirement, based on increasing stock values as a result of Trump's policies? Again, that is why you LOST. [/quote] DP... I'm very similar to you, except our HHI is a bit larger, but we live pretty frugally. Like you, our cars are old; I shop at Target for our clothes; we didn't go on vacation this past year. I take responsibility for myself and am saving the max for our retirement. We are self employed. I think you are confused to some degree about what the Dems tried to do for the middle class. They are not the ones who want to decrease services for the middle/lower class and give huge tax cuts to the rich. Many tax experts have stated that Trump/Rs tax plan will raise taxes for many of the middle class. Coupled that with cutting medicaid, wanting to let insurance companies charge 5x more for older Americans and those with pre-existing conditions for healthcare, this doesn't really help the middle class. Also, many in the middle class don't really have much in retirement. So, in actuality, in terms of retirement plans and stock value, you are an outlier in the middle class.[/quote] PP above to whom you responded...... We do seem to be in similar circumstances (and I am self-employed, as well). But I'm not confused about when the Dems tried to do for the middle class - I am living what they DID do for the middle class, and that was to create an insurance scheme that effectively decimated the individual market for middle-income people such as myself in order to see that poorer people got their care for free. My monthly premium is now MORE than the P&I on my mortgage, and I am living very modestly now in order to afford care. (And remember, after the astronomical premium, I've still had to pay for every medical expense I've incurred. The plans now are essentially "catastrophic" plans, but with "gold-level" premiums.) As far as cutting Medicaid, they aren't cutting it - [i]they are slowing the rate of growth[/i]. And we MUST do that. Medicaid is careening toward insolvency. We can't keep expanding entitlement program after entitlement program when the country is $20T in debt. And I know you believe we should just get it from the rich, but they are already paying the lion's share of taxes. If we needed to collect enough revenues to pay for all these programs, we'd have to dip down pretty far on the income scale, well into the upper-middle class. Our philosophies our different. I support someone who helps create an environment that is conducive to business growth - via removal of onerous regulations and getting a corporate tax rate down to the point where we are globally competitive - so that employers can hire more people (both the lower and middle gain from that), pay more dividends (yes, the middle class gains from that), drive the stock price (middle class, too) and so forth. I am praying that this corporate tax rate goes through and the Dems don't try to block it. [/quote]
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