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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Here's my take on all of this and sorry if it's been said. I'm not going through the last 100+ pages or however many there have been since the election was called:

If Youngkin winning shows R candidates that they don't need to be full on Trump/MAGA to win, that is a good thing for our country. Trump is absolutely toxic. If this win emboldens Republicans to actually have a platform other than Trump's whims and stop being crazy conspiracy theorists then there may be hope for our country yet. [/quote]
This is a good point. CNN had on some former politicians (both Republicans I think) who said essentially the same thing. The Trump base alone (like the progressive wing of the Dems) is not large enough to carry a national level or large state election. Maybe Virginia showed some Republicans that they don’t need to go full MAGA to win elections, Youngkin was actually helped by the fact that Trump didn’t show up here. [/quote]
This should be interesting. I posted here a million pages ago that this should show Republicans how bad Trump was because the margins for Youngkin - who was trying not to be Trumpy - and Ciaterelli - who was absolutely Trumpy - were both so much better than actual Trump got. But then Trump and RNC chair Ronna Romney both came out and claimed that the victories were all about Trump. So maybe they won’t learn anything.[/quote]

But didn’t Ciaterelli lose (albeit narrowly)? Which further proves the point that sticking with Trump means alienating the independent voters that can win elections.  [/quote]
This is the conundrum facing Republicans in 2022 and beyond. In order to flip congressional seats and state governorships, and eventually the WH, they need to sway some moderates and independents, but it was those very voters whose votes in 2020 were actually more against Trump than for Biden. Unseating Dems in purple/swing areas is not going to be accomplished by being Trumpy or trotting him out on the campaign trail, but they also can’t have his base turn on them. It’s a tightrope to walk but Youngkin showed how it can be done.[/quote]

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