Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty surprised at the NJ results (I grew up in NJ). Their state was up +15 R, even though the R lost, where VA was up +12 R but the R won.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's my take on all of this and sorry if it's been said. I'm not going through the last 100+ pages or however many there have been since the election was called:

If Youngkin winning shows R candidates that they don't need to be full on Trump/MAGA to win, that is a good thing for our country. Trump is absolutely toxic. If this win emboldens Republicans to actually have a platform other than Trump's whims and stop being crazy conspiracy theorists then there may be hope for our country yet.

This is a good point. CNN had on some former politicians (both Republicans I think) who said essentially the same thing. The Trump base alone (like the progressive wing of the Dems) is not large enough to carry a national level or large state election. Maybe Virginia showed some Republicans that they don’t need to go full MAGA to win elections, Youngkin was actually helped by the fact that Trump didn’t show up here.

This should be interesting. I posted here a million pages ago that this should show Republicans how bad Trump was because the margins for Youngkin - who was trying not to be Trumpy - and Ciaterelli - who was absolutely Trumpy - were both so much better than actual Trump got. But then Trump and RNC chair Ronna Romney both came out and claimed that the victories were all about Trump. So maybe they won’t learn anything.

But didn’t Ciaterelli lose (albeit narrowly)? Which further proves the point that sticking with Trump means alienating the independent voters that can win elections.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's my take on all of this and sorry if it's been said. I'm not going through the last 100+ pages or however many there have been since the election was called:

If Youngkin winning shows R candidates that they don't need to be full on Trump/MAGA to win, that is a good thing for our country. Trump is absolutely toxic. If this win emboldens Republicans to actually have a platform other than Trump's whims and stop being crazy conspiracy theorists then there may be hope for our country yet.

This is a good point. CNN had on some former politicians (both Republicans I think) who said essentially the same thing. The Trump base alone (like the progressive wing of the Dems) is not large enough to carry a national level or large state election. Maybe Virginia showed some Republicans that they don’t need to go full MAGA to win elections, Youngkin was actually helped by the fact that Trump didn’t show up here.

This should be interesting. I posted here a million pages ago that this should show Republicans how bad Trump was because the margins for Youngkin - who was trying not to be Trumpy - and Ciaterelli - who was absolutely Trumpy - were both so much better than actual Trump got. But then Trump and RNC chair Ronna Romney both came out and claimed that the victories were all about Trump. So maybe they won’t learn anything.

But didn’t Ciaterelli lose (albeit narrowly)? Which further proves the point that sticking with Trump means alienating the independent voters that can win elections.

Ciatterelli lost but he flipped back tons of areas that had gone hard for Biden.

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Honest answer: republicans see Asians as a useful tool to dismantle affirmative action.

That’s pretty much it.

I'll believe that, when I see Republicans actually trying to dismantle affirmative action. Largely it is Asians that are pushing the issue, and the Republicans are ignoring them, and largely not campaigning for Asian votes at all. Republicans could do much better in Loudoun and Fairfax if they ran against affirmative action.

That's the thing, they will not come out and try to dismantle the program. They are using a proxy.

Yes they will. Every time banning race in admissions has made it to a ballot, the measure has passed. I’m surprised it hasn’t happens in VA yet

Anonymous wrote:He didn’t actually distance himself from Trump. The attraction to school board issues issues, masking, school openings- all Trumpian. And Trump thanked his base for Youngkin's win.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's my take on all of this and sorry if it's been said. I'm not going through the last 100+ pages or however many there have been since the election was called:

If Youngkin winning shows R candidates that they don't need to be full on Trump/MAGA to win, that is a good thing for our country. Trump is absolutely toxic. If this win emboldens Republicans to actually have a platform other than Trump's whims and stop being crazy conspiracy theorists then there may be hope for our country yet.

This is a good point. CNN had on some former politicians (both Republicans I think) who said essentially the same thing. The Trump base alone (like the progressive wing of the Dems) is not large enough to carry a national level or large state election. Maybe Virginia showed some Republicans that they don’t need to go full MAGA to win elections, Youngkin was actually helped by the fact that Trump didn’t show up here.

This should be interesting. I posted here a million pages ago that this should show Republicans how bad Trump was because the margins for Youngkin - who was trying not to be Trumpy - and Ciaterelli - who was absolutely Trumpy - were both so much better than actual Trump got. But then Trump and RNC chair Ronna Romney both came out and claimed that the victories were all about Trump. So maybe they won’t learn anything.

But didn’t Ciaterelli lose (albeit narrowly)? Which further proves the point that sticking with Trump means alienating the independent voters that can win elections.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's my take on all of this and sorry if it's been said. I'm not going through the last 100+ pages or however many there have been since the election was called:

If Youngkin winning shows R candidates that they don't need to be full on Trump/MAGA to win, that is a good thing for our country. Trump is absolutely toxic. If this win emboldens Republicans to actually have a platform other than Trump's whims and stop being crazy conspiracy theorists then there may be hope for our country yet.

This is a good point. CNN had on some former politicians (both Republicans I think) who said essentially the same thing. The Trump base alone (like the progressive wing of the Dems) is not large enough to carry a national level or large state election. Maybe Virginia showed some Republicans that they don’t need to go full MAGA to win elections, Youngkin was actually helped by the fact that Trump didn’t show up here.

This should be interesting. I posted here a million pages ago that this should show Republicans how bad Trump was because the margins for Youngkin - who was trying not to be Trumpy - and Ciaterelli - who was absolutely Trumpy - were both so much better than actual Trump got. But then Trump and RNC chair Ronna Romney both came out and claimed that the victories were all about Trump. So maybe they won’t learn anything.

But didn’t Ciaterelli lose (albeit narrowly)? Which further proves the point that sticking with Trump means alienating the independent voters that can win elections.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's my take on all of this and sorry if it's been said. I'm not going through the last 100+ pages or however many there have been since the election was called:

If Youngkin winning shows R candidates that they don't need to be full on Trump/MAGA to win, that is a good thing for our country. Trump is absolutely toxic. If this win emboldens Republicans to actually have a platform other than Trump's whims and stop being crazy conspiracy theorists then there may be hope for our country yet.

This is a good point. CNN had on some former politicians (both Republicans I think) who said essentially the same thing. The Trump base alone (like the progressive wing of the Dems) is not large enough to carry a national level or large state election. Maybe Virginia showed some Republicans that they don’t need to go full MAGA to win elections, Youngkin was actually helped by the fact that Trump didn’t show up here.

This should be interesting. I posted here a million pages ago that this should show Republicans how bad Trump was because the margins for Youngkin - who was trying not to be Trumpy - and Ciaterelli - who was absolutely Trumpy - were both so much better than actual Trump got. But then Trump and RNC chair Ronna Romney both came out and claimed that the victories were all about Trump. So maybe they won’t learn anything.

But didn’t Ciaterelli lose (albeit narrowly)? Which further proves the point that sticking with Trump means alienating the independent voters that can win elections.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's my take on all of this and sorry if it's been said. I'm not going through the last 100+ pages or however many there have been since the election was called:

If Youngkin winning shows R candidates that they don't need to be full on Trump/MAGA to win, that is a good thing for our country. Trump is absolutely toxic. If this win emboldens Republicans to actually have a platform other than Trump's whims and stop being crazy conspiracy theorists then there may be hope for our country yet.

This is a good point. CNN had on some former politicians (both Republicans I think) who said essentially the same thing. The Trump base alone (like the progressive wing of the Dems) is not large enough to carry a national level or large state election. Maybe Virginia showed some Republicans that they don’t need to go full MAGA to win elections, Youngkin was actually helped by the fact that Trump didn’t show up here.

This should be interesting. I posted here a million pages ago that this should show Republicans how bad Trump was because the margins for Youngkin - who was trying not to be Trumpy - and Ciaterelli - who was absolutely Trumpy - were both so much better than actual Trump got. But then Trump and RNC chair Ronna Romney both came out and claimed that the victories were all about Trump. So maybe they won’t learn anything.

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Anonymous wrote:I've been at work all afternoon and evening and just stopped in to see how the meltdown is going. What'd I miss?

McAuliffe conceded. Northam is starting transition tomorrow.

I had no idea he was interested in becoming a woman!

Oh and I forgot to mention that Rs continue to be POSs. Thanks for the reminder.

Hate has no home here!

I have a lot of hate for Rs. It's no secret. And I don't mind going low.

As Michelle Obama once said, When they go llow, we’ll go high!

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Anonymous wrote:I've been at work all afternoon and evening and just stopped in to see how the meltdown is going. What'd I miss?

McAuliffe conceded. Northam is starting transition tomorrow.

I had no idea he was interested in becoming a woman!

Oh and I forgot to mention that Rs continue to be POSs. Thanks for the reminder.

Hate has no home here!

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Anonymous wrote:Here's my take on all of this and sorry if it's been said. I'm not going through the last 100+ pages or however many there have been since the election was called:

If Youngkin winning shows R candidates that they don't need to be full on Trump/MAGA to win, that is a good thing for our country. Trump is absolutely toxic. If this win emboldens Republicans to actually have a platform other than Trump's whims and stop being crazy conspiracy theorists then there may be hope for our country yet.

This is a good point. CNN had on some former politicians (both Republicans I think) who said essentially the same thing. The Trump base alone (like the progressive wing of the Dems) is not large enough to carry a national level or large state election. Maybe Virginia showed some Republicans that they don’t need to go full MAGA to win elections, Youngkin was actually helped by the fact that Trump didn’t show up here.

This should be interesting. I posted here a million pages ago that this should show Republicans how bad Trump was because the margins for Youngkin - who was trying not to be Trumpy - and Ciaterelli - who was absolutely Trumpy - were both so much better than actual Trump got. But then Trump and RNC chair Ronna Romney both came out and claimed that the victories were all about Trump. So maybe they won’t learn anything.