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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Maybe the second ATC who left early (because of staff shortages) would have been more specific re where the plane was.  Some pilots say absolutely should be been more specific in that air space.  Anyone know what is actually required?[/quote]

How much more specific could they have been? I’m sure the helicopter team would’ve been offended by being talked down to as if they didn’t know what they were doing. That happens all the time across all career paths. Additional instruction is taken as an insult to your abilities.[/quote]

That is ridiculous.  There were multiple planes in the area and withing sight.  It was completely foreseeable that the BH's pilots could get confused.

I have now heard it all -- that the BH pilots would ahve been "offended" if the ATC had said "do you see the CRJ at 11 oclock" versus the ones elsewhere.[/quote]

ATC did provide specific location coordinates, and BH confirmed they had CRJ in sight.[/quote]

Can you explain where you found this info? [/quote]

I am sure you have seen this by now -

"Traffic just south of the Woodrow Bridge, a CRJ, it's 1,200 feet setting up for Runway 33."[/quote]

I had listened but couldn't make out the specifics, thanks. So I don't understand could anyone could say ATC should have been more specific. This really deflates the "they were looking at a different plane" argument.[/quote]

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