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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Who was the ATC who left their shift early? Who was the supervisor who let them?[/quote]

Maybe they had explosive diarrhea. You have no idea the circumstances. [/quote]

Shouldn't they have a backup?[/quote]

They'd just received an email asking them to resign. They are already understaffed. But maybe you can ask the Peter Thiel boy toys helping Elon Musk break into the government computer systems.

They have access to classified info already, so maybe the 19 yo who goes by "bigballs" can help you or maybe Luke Farritor can let you know why they didn't have backup.

After all, they are in charge at OPM now!

[/quote]ATC is not allowed to resign.  They aren't part of that deal that's being offered.  [/quote]

As someone else pointed out, they received an email suggesting they resign.

This crash is Trump’s fault.

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The crash was not due to an ATC staffing issue (which has been short for YEARS).  We already know several of the multiple errors that have led to the crash, and none of them are a problem with ATC.  But you know that..[/quote]

Not the PP to whom you're responding, but: An ATC in the DCA tower was handling both plane and helicopter traffic, earlier in the evening than was standard practice, apparently because another controller left work early. The two types of aircraft were supposed to be handled by separate ATCs until 9:30 p.m. But on that night, a solo ATC was handling both about an hour earlier than normal. This is according to reporting in the Post and many other outlets.

No one is saying yet whether this change caused or even affected the crash at all; that is for the investigators to decide. But it is foolish and extremely premature of you to insist at this time that ATC staffing and/or actions had nothing to do with events that night.[/quote]

They handled the one helicopter that hour and the normal 8-9pm plane landings just fine.

The Blackhawk had the issues, investigation will uncover what the issues were. [/quote]

I never said the Blackhawk [i]didn't[/i] have issues. I also never said ATC was to blame. My post pointed out widely reported facts about the staffing in the tower at that point in time. Someone here has a real investment in insisting ATC was fine and dandy that night, but we, here, cannot possibly know that. We can only know the facts: A controller left early, another one was handling two people's jobs at the time of the crash, and --that is all we know. No blame to be assigned yet. For you to insist that "the Blackhawk had the issues," as if nothing else was a factor, is premature and arrogant. We. Don't. Know. Don't try to interpet this as my saying the Blackhawk is not to blame and ATC is. I am not saying that. I'm saying: Stick to the effing facts known at the moment.

And the fact that other landings around the same hour were "just fine" is a strange thing to point out. All flights were fine until one wasn't. The same is true every hour of every day on every flight path or road. What's your point? That an ATC couldn't have messed up one call, since that same ATC got other calls right, around the same time? Foolish argument. [/quote]

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