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PP, I'm listing below just a few threads where various posters seemed to be speaking on behalf of all or most or many Christians. In the boldface text you will see that it is common for posters to speak on behalf of others of their faith. As you can see, some are speaking for atheists. One person even seems to be speaking about God's intent or will. It isn't unusual for posters to communicate this way and it, no way, is indicative of any kind of deception or intent to proselytize. More importantly, I didn't see anyone object to these posters speaking on behalf of Christians, atheists, or even God. So why do you object to Muslima doing the same?
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10/24/2014 06:01
    Subject: Science channel's "Biblical Mysteries Explained"
 
Anonymous 
PS. What you write probaby won't shock many posters. [b]Many Christians[/b] believe that examining your faith is a crucial part of being religious. I know you don't want to believe it, but many of us refuse to simply believe what we're told.

10/26/2014 00:40
    Subject: Violence in Scripture. Let he who is without sin...
 	
Anonymous 
Anonymous wrote:
So, OP, are you an anti-semite or an islamophobe? I can't really tell which it is. Obviously, though, your link only gives 1 quote from Jesus and that one's a stretch, so you can't be entirely anti-religion. If you're Christian, then I'm officially embarrassed to have you claim to share my faith.

According to the answer key, 15 of the items come from the Bible. While only one was allegedly said by Jesus (and I'll admit it's somewhat twisted by the article), [b]there are a lot of Christians who consider[/b] both the OT and the NT as part of their religious text.

If you only subscribe to the NT, which is much more peaceful and based on love, good for you, but [b]many who claim to be Christians cite to the OT as part of their belief structure.[/b]

0/26/2014 10:13
    Subject: Violence in Scripture. Let he who is without sin...
 	
Anonymous 
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
So, OP, are you an anti-semite or an islamophobe? I can't really tell which it is. Obviously, though, your link only gives 1 quote from Jesus and that one's a stretch, so you can't be entirely anti-religion. If you're Christian, then I'm officially embarrassed to have you claim to share my faith.

According to the answer key, 15 of the items come from the Bible. While only one was allegedly said by Jesus (and I'll admit it's somewhat twisted by the article), there are a lot of Christians who consider both the OT and the NT as part of their religious text.

If you only subscribe to the NT, which is much more peaceful and based on love, good for you, but many who claim to be Christians cite to the OT as part of their belief structure.especially the anti-gay part.

[b]There are also many gay-friendly Christians, who consider much of the OT to be stories and fables[/b], but still believe the part about it prophesizing the arrival of the Messiah.

09/20/2014 12:13
    Subject: Why do Christians always try to convert you?
 	
Anonymous 
It's pretty simple really. [b]Christians believe non-Christians are going to Hell.[/b] They don't want you to go to Hell. So they want you to be Christians.

Atheist don't try to convert people because they don't believe anything bad will happen if one chooses not to be an athiest.

I don't know why anyone would get all bent out of shape about it.

09/20/2014 22:38
    Subject: Why do Christians always try to convert you?
 	
Anonymous 
Anonymous wrote:
It's pretty simple really. Christians believe non-Christians are going to Hell. They don't want you to go to Hell. So they want you to be Christians.

Atheist don't try to convert people because they don't believe anything bad will happen if one chooses not to be an athiest.

I don't know why anyone would get all bent out of shape about it.

Oh please. 
- [b]Mamy Christians don't think non-believers are automatically going to hell. [/b]
- Atheists like Dawkins are all about winning people over to their "side."

09/20/2014 23:21
    Subject: Why do Christians always try to convert you?
 	
Anonymous 
[b]God chooses to speak through people.[/b] Obviously , he could rip open the sky and say "I'm God.. You're not and abortion is evil" . He chooses to be more subtle . He allows for rejection.

09/23/2014 13:33
    Subject: Re:Why do Christians always try to convert you?
 	
Anonymous 
Anonymous wrote:
Those who seek to convert base it on this verse in the Bible where Christ commanded his apostles: 
[i] 
Mark 16:15-16 (King James Version)

15. And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.[/i]

Although it was addressed specifically to the apostles, [b]some Christians - and especially the evangelicals - view it as applying to all Christians[/b].

The problem is that - like many other things in the Bible - there is selectivity as to what is sacrosanct and what should not be taken literally and what is open to interpretation.

Yes, this is called "The Great Commandment" and [b]it is the Christian's obligation to spread the "good word" to others.[/b] Some of us may do it more obviously. Some may do it by trying to lead a quiet Christian life and hope that others come to respect them and follow suits. The Jehovah's Witnesses mentioned above are REQUIRED to spend @ hours per week going door-to-door and must turn in records with number of hours spent in trying to seek conversion. If they don't do that, they will be shunned by the J.W. community. Read up on it in wikipedia. It's really rather amazing what is required of J.W.'s. Similarly Mormons seek to convert new Mormons but traditionally do it through the two year mission program at age 18 for boys and 19 for girls.
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Whoa. You sure have a rivalry/enmity/hostility for Christians. I'm sure you'll respond with something about Christians being people of the book. Nevertheless, your obsession with the people you call Christian-evangelical-crusader-islamophobes seems very real.

Let's examine your substance. You are trying to argue that *everybody* makes generalizations about other members of their faiths. But you undermine this with quotes from Christians that carefully use the words "some" or "many." Then, for some reason, you tossed in some quotes from atheists or non-Christians that make the sort of sweeping generalizations about Christians that you claim to abhor when said generalizations are made about Muslims.

Here are the quotes that seem to be from Christians:  10/24/2014 06:01 and 09/23/2014 @ 13:33. Note the careful use of words like "many" and "some." You bolded the words "some" and "many" yourself.

Here are the posts that are obviously by atheists or non-Christians. Didn't you notice that these posters weren't Christian, when you were cutting and pasting? [/b]I'm talking about 10/26/2014 @ 00:40 (the 1st para is a Christian and the next two paras are an atheist or non-Christian. I know this because I'm the 1st para but the 2nd two paras are by an atheist or non-Christian who responded to me). Again, 09/20/2014 @ 12:13 is clearly a non-Christian or atheist. So for whatever reason, you elected to cut and paste broad generalizations made by atheists or non-Christians about what Christians supposedly think --  and that's exactly the sort of broad generalization that you object to when people make generalizations about all Muslims.[/quote]

[b]And here are many more examples of people of other faiths, namely Christian in these examples though, that seem to be speaking for others:
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Subject: Worldly success doesn't define a Christian
 Anonymous

There is a middle way, OP. I think [b]Jesus tells us [/b]that wealth corrupts - that it makes us strive for the wrong things, care for the wrong things, and spend our time in the wrong way. You can see that side of things, yes? That materialism is not the path to God? But the world shows us that just because you trust in God all your material needs (basic food, clothing, shelter) will not be magically provided. Plenty of good people, all over the world, starve to death. So I think the idea is that money should never be the point, the thing you strive for, because it is likely to lead you away from God. It might bring you closer to a new church building, sure, but there is nothing that says that church buildings or priests or fancy pews are closer to God than a person in the streets serving the homeless. [b]And Jesus never did say that [/b]hard work and responsibility were Godly virtues. He said that love is the most important thing. I'd argue that it isn't terribly loving to let your children suffer through hunger and cold, so you need some responsibility and hard work to feed them, [b]but Jesus didn't say that.[/b]

09/29/2014 11:54
    Subject: Re:Worldly success doesn't define a Christian
 Anonymous 
Anonymous wrote:
How did the praying of the 6.5 million sets of parents work out for them last year? Did they all pray to the wrong God?

No wait - I remember - God works in mysterious ways. He found my SIL the perfect real estate agent in line at the grocery store, but unfortunately, while he was distracted another 350 children died. It's so mysterious.

Again,[b] Christians are not supposed to fear death.[/b] The children went to heaven, they're OK, they're with their heavenly Father.

For the parents, on the other hand, it's a serious trial of the faith.

Subject: Worldly success doesn't define a Christian
 Anonymous  
[b]99% of Christians do not believe [/b]that children dying of disease, or murder, or tsunamis that kill thousands, are acts of God. I'd say that some of the terrible things that happen are due to human numbscullery - we won't do simple things like share our wealth enough that everyone has clean water and a place to poop, and we do really expensive things like go to war. And with the bad stuff that is just the way the world works...I just don't believe that God is a being that mucks around in the weather/plate tectonics/virology like that. I think through all that stuff, God stands fast in loving us and loving the vast amazing universe. Its up to us to channel that love to take care of each other when we suffer.

09:22
Subject: Re:"Bad" Catholic mom question on getting children become catholic
Anonymous  
Anonymous wrote: OP bad Catholic mom here- Thank you all for your information- after 1st and 2nd grade - that's pretty much it, right? I mean, besides going to church-
No...they need to be confirmed. And the age of confirmation really varies by the parish/diocese. If you really want them to be Catholic then you really need to make the commitment to go to church on a regular basis and learn the teachings, traditions etc. You might also want to start saying prayers at bedtime too[b].

10/28/2014 15:20
    Subject: Re:The Pope Believes in Evolution
Anonymous 
Anonymous wrote:
15:07, I don't think you know what transubstantiation is, as it is completely irrelevant and unrelated to evolution.

Lifelong Catholic. No one in my family, including my now dead uber-Catholic grandmother ever believed that evolution and God were incompatible.

OP, I think it's the literalist fundamentalists who believe that the Bible, including the earliest stories from the Book of Genesis are all historical fact.

[b]Fundamentalists usually believe that the Bible is literally true[/b], which isn't at all the case for Catholics[/b]. The religions that don't believe in evolution tend to be the same ones that don't care much for the Catholic church, partly because [b]Catholics are not literalists [/b]when it comes to the Bible. Catholics believe[b] that much in the Bible is told as stories, or as a previous poster notes, as fables. We can learn about truth from stories without the stories needing to be literally true. 
Evolution been believed in by Catholics for as long as I can remember.

10/28/2014 21:19
Subject: Re:The Pope Believes in Evolution
 Anonymous  
Anonymous wrote: Anonymous wrote:
15:07, I don't think you know what transubstantiation is, as it is completely irrelevant and unrelated to evolution.

Lifelong Catholic. No one in my family, including my now dead uber-Catholic grandmother ever believed that evolution and God were incompatible.

OP, I think it's the literalist fundamentalists who believe that the Bible, including the earliest stories from the Book of Genesis are all historical fact.
Fundamentalists usually believe that the Bible is literally true, which isn't at all the case for Catholics. The religions that don't believe in evolution tend to be the same ones that don't care much for the Catholic church, partly because Catholics are not literalists when it comes to the Bible. Catholics believe that much in the Bible is told as stories, or as a previous poster notes, as fables. We can learn about truth from stories without the stories needing to be literally true. 
Evolution been believed in by Catholics for as long as I can remember.

Catholics are much more sophisticated than some other CHristians. [b]Catholics are not taught about the bible in any depth, but they know all about the rules of the church -- about the miracle of the bread and wine turning to the actual body and blood of Jesus, about how in order to become a saint, a person has to first be proven to have performed miracles after they have died. Catholics don't condone divorce, but if you have enough money and perseverance, you can obtain an annulment even after many years of marriage and several children. The fundamentalists are way behind in that area.[/b][/quote]

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