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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] PP, I'm listing below just a few threads where various posters seemed to be speaking on behalf of all or most or many Christians. In the boldface text you will see that it is common for posters to speak on behalf of others of their faith. As you can see, some are speaking for atheists. One person even seems to be speaking about God's intent or will. It isn't unusual for posters to communicate this way and it, no way, is indicative of any kind of deception or intent to proselytize. More importantly, I didn't see anyone object to these posters speaking on behalf of Christians, atheists, or even God. So why do you object to Muslima doing the same? ---------------------------- 10/24/2014 06:01 Subject: Science channel's "Biblical Mysteries Explained" Anonymous PS. What you write probaby won't shock many posters. [b]Many Christians[/b] believe that examining your faith is a crucial part of being religious. I know you don't want to believe it, but many of us refuse to simply believe what we're told. 10/26/2014 00:40 Subject: Violence in Scripture. Let he who is without sin... Anonymous Anonymous wrote: So, OP, are you an anti-semite or an islamophobe? I can't really tell which it is. Obviously, though, your link only gives 1 quote from Jesus and that one's a stretch, so you can't be entirely anti-religion. If you're Christian, then I'm officially embarrassed to have you claim to share my faith. According to the answer key, 15 of the items come from the Bible. While only one was allegedly said by Jesus (and I'll admit it's somewhat twisted by the article), [b]there are a lot of Christians who consider[/b] both the OT and the NT as part of their religious text. If you only subscribe to the NT, which is much more peaceful and based on love, good for you, but [b]many who claim to be Christians cite to the OT as part of their belief structure.[/b] 0/26/2014 10:13 Subject: Violence in Scripture. Let he who is without sin... Anonymous Anonymous wrote: Anonymous wrote: So, OP, are you an anti-semite or an islamophobe? I can't really tell which it is. Obviously, though, your link only gives 1 quote from Jesus and that one's a stretch, so you can't be entirely anti-religion. If you're Christian, then I'm officially embarrassed to have you claim to share my faith. According to the answer key, 15 of the items come from the Bible. While only one was allegedly said by Jesus (and I'll admit it's somewhat twisted by the article), there are a lot of Christians who consider both the OT and the NT as part of their religious text. If you only subscribe to the NT, which is much more peaceful and based on love, good for you, but many who claim to be Christians cite to the OT as part of their belief structure.especially the anti-gay part. [b]There are also many gay-friendly Christians, who consider much of the OT to be stories and fables[/b], but still believe the part about it prophesizing the arrival of the Messiah. 09/20/2014 12:13 Subject: Why do Christians always try to convert you? Anonymous It's pretty simple really. [b]Christians believe non-Christians are going to Hell.[/b] They don't want you to go to Hell. So they want you to be Christians. Atheist don't try to convert people because they don't believe anything bad will happen if one chooses not to be an athiest. I don't know why anyone would get all bent out of shape about it. 09/20/2014 22:38 Subject: Why do Christians always try to convert you? Anonymous Anonymous wrote: It's pretty simple really. Christians believe non-Christians are going to Hell. They don't want you to go to Hell. So they want you to be Christians. Atheist don't try to convert people because they don't believe anything bad will happen if one chooses not to be an athiest. I don't know why anyone would get all bent out of shape about it. Oh please. - [b]Mamy Christians don't think non-believers are automatically going to hell. [/b] - Atheists like Dawkins are all about winning people over to their "side." 09/20/2014 23:21 Subject: Why do Christians always try to convert you? Anonymous [b]God chooses to speak through people.[/b] Obviously , he could rip open the sky and say "I'm God.. You're not and abortion is evil" . He chooses to be more subtle . He allows for rejection. 09/23/2014 13:33 Subject: Re:Why do Christians always try to convert you? Anonymous Anonymous wrote: Those who seek to convert base it on this verse in the Bible where Christ commanded his apostles: [i] Mark 16:15-16 (King James Version) 15. And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.[/i] Although it was addressed specifically to the apostles, [b]some Christians - and especially the evangelicals - view it as applying to all Christians[/b]. The problem is that - like many other things in the Bible - there is selectivity as to what is sacrosanct and what should not be taken literally and what is open to interpretation. Yes, this is called "The Great Commandment" and [b]it is the Christian's obligation to spread the "good word" to others.[/b] Some of us may do it more obviously. Some may do it by trying to lead a quiet Christian life and hope that others come to respect them and follow suits. The Jehovah's Witnesses mentioned above are REQUIRED to spend @ hours per week going door-to-door and must turn in records with number of hours spent in trying to seek conversion. If they don't do that, they will be shunned by the J.W. community. Read up on it in wikipedia. It's really rather amazing what is required of J.W.'s. Similarly Mormons seek to convert new Mormons but traditionally do it through the two year mission program at age 18 for boys and 19 for girls. [/quote] Whoa. You sure have a rivalry/enmity/hostility for Christians. I'm sure you'll respond with something about Christians being people of the book. Nevertheless, your obsession with the people you call Christian-evangelical-crusader-islamophobes seems very real. Let's examine your substance. You are trying to argue that *everybody* makes generalizations about other members of their faiths. But you undermine this with quotes from Christians that carefully use the words "some" or "many." Then, for some reason, you tossed in some quotes from atheists or non-Christians that make the sort of sweeping generalizations about Christians that you claim to abhor when said generalizations are made about Muslims. Here are the quotes that seem to be from Christians: 10/24/2014 06:01 and 09/23/2014 @ 13:33. Note the careful use of words like "many" and "some." You bolded the words "some" and "many" yourself. Here are the posts that are obviously by atheists or non-Christians. Didn't you notice that these posters weren't Christian, when you were cutting and pasting? [/b]I'm talking about 10/26/2014 @ 00:40 (the 1st para is a Christian and the next two paras are an atheist or non-Christian. I know this because I'm the 1st para but the 2nd two paras are by an atheist or non-Christian who responded to me). Again, 09/20/2014 @ 12:13 is clearly a non-Christian or atheist. So for whatever reason, you elected to cut and paste broad generalizations made by atheists or non-Christians about what Christians supposedly think -- and that's exactly the sort of broad generalization that you object to when people make generalizations about all Muslims.[/quote] Many, most, some, all, what does it matter when you said yourself Muslima has no right to speak for other Muslims at all. So lets apply your complaint to Christians who clearly are speaking for others, whether that be many, most, all, etc... Just looking for an explanation as to why Muslima must be held to a more restrictive standard.[/quote]
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