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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima]

OMG, this again!!!!! I have not read/followed this discussion and just clicked on the last page to see this ridiculous statement. Muslim women do not want western feminism. I appreciate your concerns that we are 2nd class citizens, but do know that those concerns are only existent in your mind. As a Muslim woman living a muslim life,  believing in my faith 100%, I have never felt I was a second class citizen, I have never felt men were worth more than me. Why on earth are you blatantly making these ridiculous statements? Whenever women have been treated as less than,  whenever women have gotten less than they deserved, it has never been because of Islam, to the contrary, it has always been because of a lack of Islam. I do not know of any institution, any religion, any organization that treats women, loves women, adore women, give a higher status to women than Islam. I feel blessed, lucky, happy to be a Muslim woman every single day of my life  alhamdulillah( praised be to God)  for Islam.

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Your problem is the same as anyone else - inability to imagine that someone may have experiences, feelings and convictions other than your own. You don't speak for all Muslim women. You are just one person in a sea of them. Islam is not an institution or an organization, and when it tried to become one, less than enviable results ensued, much like any other religion that forgot its place.[/quote]

I guess you failed to read the last paragraph of my response where I stated that sexism does exist in Muslim countries, yes there are Muslim women that are being abused, mistreated, being cheated on their rights every single day, just like there are non-muslim women being abused and killed every single day in America.  What I'm not going to accept is your simplification that these realities, events are the results of Islam. Correlation doesn't imply causation [/quote]
Of course it doesn't. What I take objection to is your statement that every single Muslim woman feels exactly the way you do.  There are Muslim women out there that are less than happy about what their birth religion has provided for them - not human practice or country-based sexist, but actual letter of law.  You imply they don't exist. That's not true. I am not begrudging you your love and devotion to Islam. If you are happy and content, good for you.  I am simply pointing out that you have no grounds to state that all Muslim women feel the way you do.[/quote]

Circle the part where I wrote every single woman feels the way I do???[/quote]
Every time you start a sentence with "Muslim women."

If you didn't mean that and reported only your own experiences without claiming they are generic to all Muslim women, then I am wrong and I apologize. [/quote]

PP, I'm listing below just a few threads where various posters seemed to be speaking on behalf of all or most or many Christians. In the boldface text you will see that it is common for posters to speak on behalf of others of their faith. As you can see, some are speaking for atheists. One person even seems to be speaking about God's intent or will. It isn't unusual for posters to communicate this way and it, no way, is indicative of any kind of deception or intent to proselytize. More importantly, I didn't see anyone object to these posters speaking on behalf of Christians, atheists, or even God. So why do you object to Muslima doing the same?
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10/24/2014 06:01
    Subject: Science channel's "Biblical Mysteries Explained"
 
Anonymous 
PS. What you write probaby won't shock many posters. [b]Many Christians[/b] believe that examining your faith is a crucial part of being religious. I know you don't want to believe it, but many of us refuse to simply believe what we're told.

10/26/2014 00:40
    Subject: Violence in Scripture. Let he who is without sin...
 	
Anonymous 
Anonymous wrote:
So, OP, are you an anti-semite or an islamophobe? I can't really tell which it is. Obviously, though, your link only gives 1 quote from Jesus and that one's a stretch, so you can't be entirely anti-religion. If you're Christian, then I'm officially embarrassed to have you claim to share my faith.

According to the answer key, 15 of the items come from the Bible. While only one was allegedly said by Jesus (and I'll admit it's somewhat twisted by the article), [b]there are a lot of Christians who consider[/b] both the OT and the NT as part of their religious text.

If you only subscribe to the NT, which is much more peaceful and based on love, good for you, but [b]many who claim to be Christians cite to the OT as part of their belief structure.[/b]

0/26/2014 10:13
    Subject: Violence in Scripture. Let he who is without sin...
 	
Anonymous 
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
So, OP, are you an anti-semite or an islamophobe? I can't really tell which it is. Obviously, though, your link only gives 1 quote from Jesus and that one's a stretch, so you can't be entirely anti-religion. If you're Christian, then I'm officially embarrassed to have you claim to share my faith.

According to the answer key, 15 of the items come from the Bible. While only one was allegedly said by Jesus (and I'll admit it's somewhat twisted by the article), there are a lot of Christians who consider both the OT and the NT as part of their religious text.

If you only subscribe to the NT, which is much more peaceful and based on love, good for you, but many who claim to be Christians cite to the OT as part of their belief structure.especially the anti-gay part.

[b]There are also many gay-friendly Christians, who consider much of the OT to be stories and fables[/b], but still believe the part about it prophesizing the arrival of the Messiah.

09/20/2014 12:13
    Subject: Why do Christians always try to convert you?
 	
Anonymous 
It's pretty simple really. [b]Christians believe non-Christians are going to Hell.[/b] They don't want you to go to Hell. So they want you to be Christians.

Atheist don't try to convert people because they don't believe anything bad will happen if one chooses not to be an athiest.

I don't know why anyone would get all bent out of shape about it.

09/20/2014 22:38
    Subject: Why do Christians always try to convert you?
 	
Anonymous 
Anonymous wrote:
It's pretty simple really. Christians believe non-Christians are going to Hell. They don't want you to go to Hell. So they want you to be Christians.

Atheist don't try to convert people because they don't believe anything bad will happen if one chooses not to be an athiest.

I don't know why anyone would get all bent out of shape about it.

Oh please. 
- [b]Mamy Christians don't think non-believers are automatically going to hell. [/b]
- Atheists like Dawkins are all about winning people over to their "side."

09/20/2014 23:21
    Subject: Why do Christians always try to convert you?
 	
Anonymous 
[b]God chooses to speak through people.[/b] Obviously , he could rip open the sky and say "I'm God.. You're not and abortion is evil" . He chooses to be more subtle . He allows for rejection.

09/23/2014 13:33
    Subject: Re:Why do Christians always try to convert you?
 	
Anonymous 
Anonymous wrote:
Those who seek to convert base it on this verse in the Bible where Christ commanded his apostles: 
[i] 
Mark 16:15-16 (King James Version)

15. And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.[/i]

Although it was addressed specifically to the apostles, [b]some Christians - and especially the evangelicals - view it as applying to all Christians[/b].

The problem is that - like many other things in the Bible - there is selectivity as to what is sacrosanct and what should not be taken literally and what is open to interpretation.

Yes, this is called "The Great Commandment" and [b]it is the Christian's obligation to spread the "good word" to others.[/b] Some of us may do it more obviously. Some may do it by trying to lead a quiet Christian life and hope that others come to respect them and follow suits. The Jehovah's Witnesses mentioned above are REQUIRED to spend @ hours per week going door-to-door and must turn in records with number of hours spent in trying to seek conversion. If they don't do that, they will be shunned by the J.W. community. Read up on it in wikipedia. It's really rather amazing what is required of J.W.'s. Similarly Mormons seek to convert new Mormons but traditionally do it through the two year mission program at age 18 for boys and 19 for girls.
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