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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There are a lot of Muslims with roots in the MidEast and North Africa that have Sephardic and Ashkenazi DNA. Can they also claim to be Jewish? Not to get political (but it's slightly inevitable)... do they have a right to return? What percentage of DNA 'counts' for Muslims who have 'Jewish' DNA? [/quote]

The right of return criteria is a grandparent who is Jewish, so yes they could have that right.

A Muslim with Ashkenazi or Sephardic roots would be ethnicity Jewish (as one of probably multiple ethnicities they have) and religiously Muslim (assuming they consider themselves religiously Muslim).[/quote]

This right to return had always been weird to me. So the Arabs living there generation after generation who then were forced out have no right to return, but any Jew has a right to return? Why???[/quote]

It’s an Israeli law. You really need to separate Israeli politics from Jewish identity.

- A Jew who hates Israel[/quote]

Yes but how is it justified? It doesn’t make sense to me. Just trying to understand![/quote]

They have many arab countries to go to (and maybe one day soon a Palestinian state on the West Bank) while Israel is the only Jewish country, the only reliable refuge for Jews.  (by the way "forced out" is an oversimplification of what happened in 1948)

I do think it would be fair though, if Jews who say that they "hate Israel" lose their right to move there - unfortunately there is no provisio in Israeli law for that, so if and when you find yourself persecuted as a Jew, you will still have the right to move there. [/quote]

So it’s ok to force people out of their homes and confiscate their properties, and massacre many of them because they have other Arab countries to go to???[/quote]

People left their homes in 1948 because there was a war. The only proven case of them being forced out of their homes was from a city that was on a crucial supply line, and they were pushed a few miles over to the nearest Arab army.  Jews were also pushed out of their homes in 1948 in areas occupied by arab armies (which were far fewer, as the arab armies were less effective in that war).

All of that was 70 years ago.   Not quite as far back as the massacre at wounded knee, but definitely the past. ultimately, while each side can keep their own narrative of the past, they will have to make peace anyway. If you do not wish to live in Israel because of the events of 1948, that is your choice.   I can say that Israel in recent years has NOT been fascist in any meaningful sense. Though I worry about the consequences of not making peace, and the corrosive effects of the occupation of the West Bank on Israeli society, I would have no qualm abot moving to Israel today.  If anything, I would like to move there to support the Israeli left, which I admire.  [/quote]

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