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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am sickened by what is happening to the U.S.  [/quote]

Yes, millions of babies, many from Black and Hispanic families, being aborted.[/quote]

Millions of living, breathing WOMEN who were safely able to end their pregnancy.

Millions of WOMEN who weren't forced to continue a pregnancy or give birth against their will.

Millions of WOMEN who were able to make medical decisions with their doctors without religious fanatics forcing their beliefs on them.

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I'm a woman. MOST women out of the 60+ million who aborted their babies werent forced to have sex, get pregnant, and have medical issues. Many of those women need to think smarter and quit using abortion as a means to get rid of a baby. [/quote]

Sorry, you don't get to insert yourself into a decision between a woman and her doctor. You don't get to force your will on women's bodies.

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There are many laws that we may or may not like. I'm not forcing my will on you. [/quote]

Yes, you are. You want to FORCE your extremist religious beliefs on all women's (and children's) bodies. Against their will. 
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And YOU want YOUR views to be the law.[/quote]

No she wants basic human autonomy. [/quote]

Exactly. I want to make decisions about my own body and life without other forcing their religious views on me. 
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Do you also think every parent should have the "basic autonomy" to rear and discipline their children in whatever manner they choose? I don't. As an educator, I've seen firsthand how some parent. Laws are made for all kinds of reasons that aren't based on a religion.  [/quote]

Your analogy is faulty on many levels. The first is that you are comparing decisions a woman makes about her own body (abortion) to decisions a woman may make about another human being who lives separately in its own body (parenting).

Your analogy ignores the fact that, legally, we allow parents to make all kinds of parenting decisions that are often thought of as “bad” decisions - to withhold medical treatment or restrict education, for example.

Finally, your analogy rests on the idea that somehow women as a class of human beings are incapable of making good decisions about their own bodies.  I personally think this is wrong.  Women exercising the right to abortions are making very complex calculations about their lifelong ability to rear a child - decisions so complex that I don’t believe the state could ever be an adequate substitute decision-maker.

If your response to this is some version of - “but the fetus is a person also and deserves protection equal to the mother”, please know that you are advancing a very specific religious view that is inconsistent with Jewish, Hindu and other faiths and is ahistorical in the US (where abortion was widely legal if done before quickening around the fourth month of pregnancy and had not begun to be outlawed until the mid to late 1800s) [/quote]

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