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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP, don’t listen to these hypocrites. They would never ever say anything about renaming everything associated with Washington or Jefferson, nor will they ever advocate for renaming Fairfax County, named after Lord Fairfax, a prominent slave owner. They think they can pick and choose everything to their liking, just like the constitution they so desperately want to abolish. [/quote]

When exactly did Washington fight against our country? When did he kill 620,000 Americans to keep 4 million people enslaved?

Sit TF down, fool. 
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"these hypocrites" aren't hypocrites by your own admission- slave owning isn't the issue here-an armed insurrection against the United States of America is, and for the pp who said that states weren't subservient blah blah ... well maybe you have a point and states should've been allowed to secede but they tried and they were conquered and we don't put up statues to honor ppl who we conquer and defeat. History is written by the victors, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson won their insurrection, Lee lost his attempt- they are losers, we celebrate winners not losing losers regardless of who was morally upstanding or not in the end. Its not as if the King Edward and Queen Victoria were more upright than the Kaiser, they just won and the germans lost.

the Confederates are losers who lost, and we, the United States won, and maybe for a short time we decided to assuage the feelings of the losers by allowing them to put up statues and so on.. now the victors of that particular war have decided that we want to rub your nose in your loss and we don't want to care about your feelings about being bested by us. As the victors in the conflict, the United States of America has a aright to do that and people who have any sort  of allegiance to a nation other than the United States will have to choose which nation they are actually loyal to- you cannot be loyal to the memory of a nation that staged a violent overthrow of the government.  Like Arabs in Isreal- if they support Palestine, they are not loyal Isrealis. if you love the confederacy you aren't loyal to the United States, they are enemy nations who had a brief cultural detante but that is over now. Honestly I think the losers took too much advantage and got too comfortable and now the victors are irritated at them and want to ensure the losers actually lose everything even at this belated date. I think the majority of Americans who have no unambigiouty in their loyalty to the Union are sick of coddling the South and the former confederate states, especially since they never actually adapted to a free workforce and kept on trying to replicate the enormous finial boon of a free and cheap labor force and are still "taker'states that use up huge amounts of money from Northern/Union States b/c they are poor and useless.  Even on these boards you can see a bias that paints the former confederate states as useless, poor, shiftless, ignorant and basically a drag upon more productive states, there is a scorn for the South and everything southern and it is coming out as an unwillingness to coddle southern sensibilities that was present in the first half of the 20th century.

For a long time northerners were willing to placate the feelings of the former confederate states b/c they thought it was in their best interest, the former Union States are vastly wealthier now and have to pay enormous capital to the former confederacy and obviously it is the policies and culture of these places that keep them in this permanent state of needing handouts for 150 years now, the Union States are tired of it now and are like enough. Your culture and its heroes are stupid and you need to assimilate. This isn't a logical thing actually- there are some (VA & TX) former confederates Staes that aren't an economic deadweight but mostly ppl think of Alabama, Louisiana and are enraged that they have to keep giving these Staes charity year after year and I think honestly these "progressives" feel like you should feed the poor and help people but they are also American so they are like pull yourself together, its been 150 years, be self sufficient already. Also we have a greater understanding of exactly how enslaved labor propelled the fortunes of the Unite States into being a world power and so there is more guilt on the collective consciousness that what we have we owe to this unpaid labor and the confederates who reallised that slavery was THE ultimate gravy train and stopping it would stop the economic powerhouse the US had become are an easy target for being cold and calculated users of enslaved labor while the Northerners who profited off of it want to distance themselves and have plausible deniability. They cant have that if they have statues honoring confederates peppered around. [/quote]

Time to grow up and join the modern world. We have no place for racist losers.

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