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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I can’t wait to watch Blake and Ryan, the mega narcissists, go down. The day is coming soon!![/quote]

We know, Baldoni Bro, we know.[/quote]

I’m actually a woman that’s worked with DV survivors since I was in college. Now 45. I’ve never seen such a frivolous lawsuit in my life that is an insult to women who are actually survivors of DV, SA, and SH. This is doing a massive disservice to the whole community. It does seem that there is one specific Blake troll on here who is posting way too much. I will ask Jeff about it.[/quote]

Your personal experience is pretty irrelevant to a lawsuit. Employers are legally not allowed to create workplace environment that is toxic, hostile, uncomfortable for any specific group of people…be it women or African Americans or Jews or Muslims. Being a director and a boss doesn’t give you carte blanche to make a protected class of people uncomfortable in their workplace. Although Blake brought the case, there is testimony from multiple women about being made to feel uncomfortable on set. Workplace sexual harassment doesn’t require sexual comments or actions, it is about harassment based on sex (being male / female) and treating the women on set differently from the men in a way that makes the women uncomfortable. There has been sufficient legal evidence to support that claim to get this case all the way to trial. [/quote]

I've seen variations of the PP's argument many times, not just with regards to Lively/Baldoni, and it's really frustrating.

I have heard people argue that it's unfair to punish Louis C.K. for his behavior because, after all, it's not as bad as what Weinstein did. And sure, I agree LCK is not as bad as Weinstein. But LCK exposed himself and jerked off in front of female comedians on his tour, without their consent. I can't be mad at him for that? I can't decide, you know what, I don't want to support or give my money to someone who treats women he works with that way? Of course I can, it's gross. I would be so traumatized if that happened to me. The comedians he did that to pretty much left comedy, and I get why. Is he a rapist? No. Is what he did okay? Also no.

And Baldoni is on that same continuum IMO. I don't think he's like an evil dude (I increasingly do think Sarowitz is, but that's true of so many billionaires). I think he's tone deaf and misogynist and created a really awful workplace for women. I don't think he should go to jail but I am FINE with him being sued under existing employment law for the mistakes he made in running this movie, and also in him being publicly exposed for his behavior. People can decide for themselves if they want to continue to support him as a director or actor or producer based on the truth coming out. I will choose not to support him, other people will make their own choices.

But I see nothing wrong in simply telling people what happened, or in Blake's case pursuing the remedies available to her under the law. I don't see how you can call yourself a feminist and then argue that Blake had some kind of duty to stay quiet about her experience? Why?[/quote]

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