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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]yeah but everything is now conflated. For all your harping on consent, [b]you still can't define what consent is really [/b]and that people consent and then say they don't consent. Thats the reason for all those high profile fake rape cases that are now breaking down.

Laura Kipnis puts it well:

In the meantime, Ezra Klein is praising Laura Kipnis — who was targeted not for her outré feminism or for the quality of her work, but because she wrote against “sexual paranoia”; noted that, on campus, “gropers become rapists and accusers become survivors, opening the door for another panicky conflation: teacher-student sex and incest”; and warned that “[b]the myths and fantasies about power perpetuated in these new codes are leaving our students disabled when it comes to the ordinary interpersonal tangles and erotic confusions that pretty much everyone has to deal with at some point in life.” 
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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/419271/tide-turning-against-pc-charles-c-w-cooke[/quote]

There are lots of things that exist in law that people can't define. Pornography, famously. "Reasonable" is another example. "The age of consent" is a long-standing legal thing, and you can't have the idea of an age of consent without the idea of consent.

Also, which "all those high profile fake rape cases that are now breaking down"? Fake rape? Fake cases? Which? If somebody says that they were raped, but the sexual activity was actually consensual, or there wasn't any sexual activity at all, that's not "fake rape" -- that's a false accusation.

Finally, I really don't understand some people's fixation on campus codes of conduct. Most people, for most of their lives, are not on campus. And yet discussions of rape invariably get derailed into discussions of campus codes of conduct. Why?[/quote]

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