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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Watching the video of those young Israeli hostages being handed over to the Red Cross in Gaza is interesting. Those young women are surrounded by a sea of jubilant Hamas militants all in green headbands and masks. Clearly, the IDF has a lot more work to do. Hamas isn't even close to being eliminated. Until Palestinians depose these extremists, I don't see how this war ever ends. [/quote]

Hamas is masterful at media manipulation, which is why you never saw any imagery of deceased Hamas combatants in Gaza, only women and children.  Hamas is only releasing hostages under the pressure of their losses, their staging of events like this notwithstanding.  If they were not on the verge of complete annihilation, the hostages would not be released.  As it is, 47K or so Palestinians are deceased, and Hamas gained no new territory, no new privileges, no separate country, and no respect.  [/quote]

That’s not the standard.[/quote]

So what has Hamas accomplished?  An opportunity for some new apartment buildings to be paid for with foreign aid?  The creation of new parking lots in Gaza?  An improvement is the business prospects for Gazan undertakers?  [/quote]

Dear Poster, I don't think this is the right question. I think it's less about what they were trying to accomplish and more about how desperate they felt to get the world to see their living conditions. [/quote]

So suicide was the path to that?  They couldn't invite CNN into Gaza to take a look around?  I hardly think publicity would be best achieved by invading Israel, killing, raping, and kidnapping.  Not to mention to cost in lives.  A peculiar choice for a course of action to achieve anything useful.   [/quote]

It's not a peculiar choice. Hamas was quite open for years about demanding Israel stop the settlements in the West Bank and return all Palestinian women and children from Israeli jail. Israel refused to listen and continued aggression in the West Bank knowing Hamas was not there. Cowardly Israel does not do the same run and gun grabs of people in the Gaza Strip where Hamas reside. Only in the WB and they continue to do so. The ironic tragedy is many Palestinians who lived in the West Bank moved to Gaza so their kids can be safer because of the non-existence of the IDF and settlers there, only for them to get caught up post 10/7.

I dont know why Israel acts like Hamas didnt telegraph their actions. They had bulldozers at the crossing for weeks prior to 10/7 and even sent written manifestos via the air  to the kibbutz residents telling them to get ready because they are coming. Netanyahu was also warned personally by Egypt that Hamas is planning an imminent attack.

Netanyahu wanted 10/7 to happen to avoid his corruption charges and getting impeached/going to jail.[/quote]

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