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You clearly don’t know policing. You realize they also respond to CALLS, correct? And that they aren’t running around pulling people over all day? Calls are way  up and officers are down. As for your “work stoppage,” it simply isn’t happening. I know many cops, and they are too busy doing their jobs and covering the shortages. Are they upset with the council? Yes, and rightfully so. If you have paid ANY attention to this council for the past couple of years, you would know that [b]the problems faced in recruitment and retention[/b] fall very heavily on the council and its vitriol toward the department.

And to say the Council is “eating it up”? Very mature. [/quote]

This is a US-wide phenomenon, it's not just Montgomery County. And at least part of it is due to the actions of police officers in the US, which have caused a reassessment of policing in general. [b]There can only be so much attention on so many bad cops [/b]before people start to wonder whether there's a systemic problem.[/quote]

That's the thing.    The media, particularly social media, take low probability/high consequence incidents and drive them into our eyes/ears/brains until it is the only reality we know.  And then we demand policy changes based on the cognitive distortion of imagined frequency.

1,000 deaths at the hands of police is horrible.   Every life matters.   But when put in context of the number of police contacts, which is 61 million per year across the U.S., that's 0.002% chance of death each time you encounter a police officer.

That's one in 2,000
Your risk of dying in a gun assault are one in 221.

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Excellent post. But I’m still waiting for someone to jump in with the “even one death is too many!” nonsense. [/quote]

The thing y'all don't want to admit is that the killings are just the most extreme example of disparate and abusive policing. Just because you don't get killed doesn't mean you haven't been harassed or worse injured by police. The people paid to protect you. That impacts a person and it happens a lot, including in Montgomery County.[/quote]

10 years ago, I would have believed in the possibility of this being true.  But cell phone and ring camera footage is so ubiquitous, we would have seen it.   People are out there taunting police, trying to get them to lose their tempers, so that they can film it and upload it.

There is no pervasive pattern of abuse or misconduct in MoCo.[/quote]

I can tell you as a White person [b]I have directly observed disparate and abusive treatment of Black.people by police.[/b] I'm sorry you saw some camera footage that upset you. It's ridiculous and offensive to assert that this disproves what Black people are saying[/quote]

Disparate treatment?  So they had one white suspect and one Black suspect before them at the same time, under completely equal circumstances, and they treated them differently?   [/quote]

We were knocking on doors in the same neighborhoods for weeks and they repeatedly got stopped and harassed by police and I never did.[/quote]

If you base treatment solely on race, you will always have different outcomes.   There are many other issues at play.   Maybe others matched the description of a suspect and you didn't, for example.  [/quote]

Really, all four of them "matched the description" of a suspect?

Honestly, what was happening was abundantly clear to me. I get it, you don't believe me, and you and your kind will always hide behind the notion that you can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the treatment is disparate. But it is obvious to those of us that have observed it. The police can keep denying denying denying denying but that is not going to make their lives any easier. They need to reform. They do not want to reform. That is 100% on them.[/quote]

The point is there is more going on than just race.  But you want to reduce it to that so it fits your narrative.  It's impossible for you to consider that you yourself have bias.

The police department has, at least for 20 years, had a proactive culture of improvement based on evidence-based policing practices.   When you say reform, you are probably thinking of the catchphrases activists like to use, like 8 can't wait.   None of which is evidence-based.  And some of which can cause the community even more harm.

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