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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]GMU is booked solid in the interval between rejections and appeals.  A lot of people are using GMU.

Also, a high WISC score is no longer a guarantee of acceptance on appeal.  If you submit a high WISC score, but the committee isn't seeing what it wants to see when it holistically reviews the file, they'll still reject the kid.  [/quote]

Do you know how many people are booking appointments or how many appointment slots GMU even has? Do you think that they are doing only WiSCs or do you think that WiSCs are a percentage of the examinations and appointments that they have?

Yes, people are going for a WiSC. I seriously doubt that everyone who is appealing is getting a WiSC. And there is no indication that a high WiSC actually leads to a successful appeal. People have posted that they had a high WiSC for their appeal and did not get into AAP on appeal. People have posted that they went for a WiSC and the score was less then the CogAT and ask if they should include the WiSC.

Essentially, a small percentage of the people applying for AAP, in the first wave or in the appeals process, are using a WiSC. The numbers in the audit bears this out. The anecdotal evidence from this board points to practitioners that are not ginning up bogus scores AND that people with higher WiSC scores are not automatically admitted.

But keep on arguing that somehow or another people are buying their way into AAP and buying WiSC scores. It sure seems to make you feel better about something. I don't know if that is because your child wasn't accepted into AAP and you are looking for an excuse or if you just don't like AAP for some reason and are looking for a reason to tear it down.

I have taken the WiSC, many times in school, because I have LDs. I had to take it every 3-4 years to renew services in my school district. It sucked. I knew that I was struggling in areas, because I am smart and I knew I was suppose to be able to do the things I struggled on. But that is how they measure the gaps in abilities that point to LDs or ADHD. It is stupidly frustrating to take an exam that you know you are, essentially failing. Practitioners understand the importance of these types of exams to identify real issues for people. Only an unethical hack would sell results in order to make more money because practitioners are aware that the results have to be trusted in order to provide supports and assistance to people who need support and assistance.

People who are getting WiSCs for their AAP applications are, in my opinion, strangely invested in AAP. I think AAP is nice but I don't think that it is all that great. My kid is ahead of the math they are doing in AAP so we send him for enrichment. I don't think for a second that the Advanced Math would meet his needs if fewer kids were in AAP. And to be frank, I think the process does a fine job of placing kids in AAP. Are some kids included who should not be, sure. Are some kids missed who should be included, sure. But overall the process works reasonably well. And no, I don't feel like the panic from parents at higher SES schools who are so focused on TJ in second grade warrants the level of emotional responses that people pour into the AAP process.[/quote]

Why are you attacking me?  I'm pretty obviously arguing that people are NOT buying their way into AAP.  Many people are using GMU for WISC, and GMU scores are neither inflated nor are they "for sale."   Likewise, I stated that even if a child earns a high WISC, there's no guarantee that the appeals committee will admit the kid.

Maybe you should read posts more carefully and reflect on what is being said before unleashing on someone.[/quote]

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