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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Nick being a good guy is wishful thinking. At what point do you imagine he turned spy — before or after he killed Americans and overthrew his own government? I think it’s clear he loves June and regrets his role in creating and maintaining Gilead, but let’s not forget that he was a Gilead soldier long before there was a Gilead. If this show suddenly decides to say “Oh, he was a plant from even before the rebellion,” I will lose it because it’s so very unrealistic and just pandering to viewers who want to think the cute enemy soldier really is a good guy.[/quote]

I think that Nick was very malleable and apathetic when he was younger. He wanted money to take care of his family, and joined the “cause” in order to do that- a soldier for hire. Once he was in there was no getting out. I hope that his relationship with June changed him. Obviously she sees something more than a moral void in him. I don’t think the show in general presents people as just good or bad, though; most of the characters are morally complicated.[/quote]
I think there are a lot of identity issues in play as well. Everyone has been brainwashed and manipulated, stripped down to nothing but what Gilead had made them.

Lydia stands out. I don’t think she particularly enjoys her role, but she’s good at it and it’s her identity. What other choice does she have? There is so much psychologically at play, too (Stockholm Syndrome, etc.) What would she do if she left? How difficult would reintegration be, especially considering her past. This sort of forced moral complexity is so interesting to watch. [/quote]

I feel like we are all going to be disappointed in Nick's end story unless a lot more is revealed during the rest of this season. They started out strong with implying Nick had some contact with Mayday (he was hiding June at the Boston Globe), but it's really dropped off since then.

I don't think he's a bad guy, but perhaps like Luke, is a passive guy. I don't know.

Lydia is an interesting one. I don't think she is at all motivated by a sense of purpose around Gilead. Maybe initially. She wants power. And no spoilers, but her origin story in the show is very different from her origin story in the Testaments. So her fate could be anything.[/quote]

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