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I'm 22:36 again. You assume far too much. If women wear hijab to avoid the glances or stares of men, it doesn't necessarily mean they are being cowed by men. Many men will notice a pretty woman. Are you denying this or are you saying it is only prevalent in Muslim cultures? A few will stare. Evenso, most don't to intimidate or harass. They simply notice. I'm sure you have male relatives and friends. Ask them if their intent when they notice a pretty woman is for the purposes of intimidating or harassing. Ask most women who catch a man noticing them if they felt intimidated or harassed by the glance or stare. Most women don't feel that is a man's intent and most men don't intend that either.

Practicing Muslim women who choose to wear hijab want to prevent ANY glances or stares because [b]in Islam it is a sin for men to notice women's beauty. Period. Hair is an adornment [/b](well, except for Leila Ahmed, maybe lol). It is colored, straightened, curled, etc…and then shown off by women to men.

Why are you bent upon trying to prove Muslim women would never desire to wear hijab? Is it because it angers you so much that it is a mandate in some Muslim countries? Is it because in your own mind, it is considered perfectly natural and healthy for women to show their attractiveness to men? Or is it because you can not imagine women exercising such a level of restraint? [/quote]

I realize you said you haven't followed this thread.  But we have disputed the verse in question as a justification for hijab.  Boiled down, the verse says a woman should not show her things of beauty (adornment is not the right translation for zeinat), therefore, she should draw material over her chest.  The whole point of the verse was to get women to cover up their breasts, which was not a universal practice in pre-Islamic Arabia. If the Quran had meant cover up your hair it would have said that.  In the context, things of beauty here clearly means breasts, not hair or anything else.

As for it being a sin in Islam to notice a women's beauty, I am not seeing where that is in the Quran.  It does say to lower one's gaze, which is, guess what?, exactly why it also says women should cover their breasts.  This sounds more to me as an anti-ogling command, which these days, as PPs have pointed out, is followed in the breach in many Muslim countries where the more women cover the more they are subject to harassment.[/quote]

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