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I'm 22:36 again. You assume far too much. If women wear hijab to avoid the glances or stares of men, it doesn't necessarily mean they are being cowed by men. Many men will notice a pretty woman. Are you denying this or are you saying it is only prevalent in Muslim cultures? A few will stare. Evenso, most don't to intimidate or harass. They simply notice. I'm sure you have male relatives and friends. Ask them if their intent when they notice a pretty woman is for the purposes of intimidating or harassing. Ask most women who catch a man noticing them if they felt intimidated or harassed by the glance or stare. Most women don't feel that is a man's intent and most men don't intend that either.

Practicing Muslim women who choose to wear hijab want to prevent ANY glances or stares because [b]in Islam it is a sin for men to notice women's beauty.[/b] Period. Hair is an adornment (well, except for Leila Ahmed, maybe lol). It is colored, straightened, curled, etc…and then shown off by women to men.

Why are you bent upon trying to prove Muslim women would never desire to wear hijab? Is it because it angers you so much that it is a mandate in some Muslim countries? Is it because in your own mind, it is considered perfectly natural and healthy for women to show their attractiveness to men? Or is it because you can not imagine women exercising such a level of restraint? [/quote]

It is a sin to notice women's beauty?  That is completely f-ed up, and why is the onus on women to cover themselves regardless?  The woman isn't sinning.

If this is the hijab's goal, then it is a complete failure.  I say this as someone who spent time in Egypt, a Muslim country where at least 80% of women are wearing hijab.  Men are constantly leering, yelling, and harassing women on the street no matter what they are wearing.  Do you know why?  Because they have been absolved of any responsibility for their own behavior by religious authorities who have taught them that it is the woman's fault that they are "noticing" her beauty.  Just really, completely f-ed up and not the way things used to be in that country.

Newsflash pp, men will have sex with animals or inanimate objects if nothing else is available.  A man will "notice" a woman in a hijab, niqab, whatever, as long as she is walking and he has eyes.  The MEN need to realize that women are not sexual objects, they are people.

Notice in Christian thinking the sin is not "noticing beauty."  The sin is lust, which is different, and places the onus on the person doing the lusting.  Plus, it is pretty easy to not "lust" if you are looking at women and noticing a fellow human being instead of a sexual object.  If a man is taught that a woman is a sexual object and fair game just for being guilty of being "beautiful" it is trouble.

I once asked a Muslim theology student about the hijab and his thoughts on it.  He described to me, with great enthusiasm, how exciting it was to him that his wife would be "his" alone and that no other man would get to look at her hair or her "beauty."  He was practically drooling as he said it.  It's just a really bizarre way of thinking, quite frankly.

And why would God want to hide beauty?  If you believe in God, wouldn't you realize that God has placed beauty everywhere and does not want to "hide" it?  Why would you automatically sexualize a woman's beauty or her hair?  A woman can dress modestly and beautifully without the legalism of covering every strand of hair.

Just a fail on every level.[/quote]

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