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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yeah, we’re never going to agree that celebrating the demise of an ideology is “wishing death on posters”. You’ve grossly overstepped on that one. Or did you also think we (as Americans) wished death on everyone behind the Iron Curtain when we celebrated the demise of Communism? Of course not.

And you’re also confusing me with other posters here, too. I didn’t post anything about anyone else’s views making the case that it’s “OK to kill kids”.

You don’t deserve further engagement, but I’ll make an exception just this once.

I DO think posters in this discussion believe our / America’s bad acts are somehow magically less “bad” than identical bad acts committed by our adversaries, though. This topic perfectly illustrates that view: the posters here lathered up over attacking Iran seem to clearly think that Iran’s involvement in the attack 43 years ago that killed 241 of our service members (who, no matter what we think about it, were legitimate target based on international humanitarian law) was far worse than what now appears to be our killing of 180 non-combatant children and teachers.

That’s sad. I think it’s pathetic. I think it reflects horribly on the morality of this nation. I don’t embrace the view that American lives have greater value than the lives of non-Americans. I think that view is diseased and needs to change. And yeah, I think that diseased view is commonly held by Zionists. And yeah, I think their ideology centered on that view deserves to end up in the dustbin of history. The world isn’t a better place for a group of individuals believing in their own superiority over all others based not on their actions, but based on the fairytale they cling to from thousands of years ago that they think ordains them superior. And I’ll stand by that view, and I make no apologies for it.[/quote]

The problem with your argument isn’t mere disagreement, it’s the way you’re trying to move goalposts and rewrite what you said after the fact. You didn’t merely "celebrate the demise of an ideology." You explicitly framed your position in terms of wanting America to be “crippled” and to “die,” and now you’re pretending that was some abstract philosophical critique rather than a wish for national collapse. That’s not a misinterpretation; that’s the plain meaning of your own words and I will not let you weasel out of it. And no, invoking the fall of the Iron Curtain doesn’t rescue the comparison. Americans celebrated the end of a repressive system, not the destruction of an entire people or country. You’re trying to smuggle your rhetoric into that analogy to sanitize it, and it doesn’t hold.

Your historical framing is just as selective. Reducing four decades of brutal and violent Iranian state behavior to “one event 43 years ago” is not analysis; it’s straight up erasure. Iran’s proxies and security services have repeatedly targeted civilians, diplomats, aid workers, and infrastructure across the region. Those attacks weren’t hypothetical, and the victims weren’t abstractions. Pretending that only one incident matters while dismissing the long and extensive, proven and documented record of non‑combatant deaths caused by Iranian‑backed groups is not moral clarity; it’s moral tunnel vision. And the irony is that while you accuse others of believing American lives matter more, you’re the one minimizing the deaths of civilians when those civilians were killed by a government you've steadfastly proven yourself so determined to defend.

Finally, your attempt to universalize your own contempt by claiming to speak for "Americans" while pronouncing them "diseased" is as incoherent as it is hostile. You’ve decided and declared by magic wand that anyone who challenges your narrative must be a "Zionist," as though that label alone explains every disagreement or absolves you from engaging with the substance. That's no argument at all - it's a weak rhetorical crutch. You’re not critiquing policy; you’re pathologizing entire groups of people and then congratulating yourself for being unapologetic about it. If you want to have a serious conversation about morality, accountability, or foreign policy, then start by owning your own words and start by owning the actions of your side, instead of trying to retroactively launder and whitewash them.

As for whether you're the same poster as the one who lied claiming we said "It's OK to kill kids" - that may or may not be the case; your patterns and rhetorical style are 100% identical - whether you're the same poster or not, your style and approach is no better.  [/quote]

First, thank you for cleaning up that post. I’m assuming it required more than a mere reply.

Second, and you are shockingly persistent in being way off the mark on this one … I never celebrated the inevitable demise or anything of that sort related to America. Why are you intent on persisting with that false claim? I said Zionism. Do you think that Zionism and America are synonymous? Suffice it to say, I hope not. Yet you continue to misrepresent this point - why?

Third, I’m NOT the poster(s) who posted about anyone being “OK to kill kids” or “OK with killing kids” or whatever. Your linguistic skills may or may not be as attuned as you think they are, but it doesn’t really matter. You’re confusing my posts with those of others.

It seems like that’s a pattern on one side of these kinds of debates, where there’s a constant refrain from one side about there being only “one poster” opposing their views, over and over again. I guess it makes them feel better thinking that it’s just one person out there who disagrees with them, but whatever. Your essential thesis regarding my identity is dead wrong. Full stop.

Anyway, we’re not going to agree on the rest of what you wrote, so I’ll leave it at that.[/quote]

You're the one equating Zionism and America.  You immediately accuse anyone who questions or disagrees with you of being Zionist.  That's your broad brush, not anyone else's.  Yours.  I think the other poster's points stand.  Yours do not.[/quote]

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