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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] No they don’t. My DH used to joke about it taking an act of Congress to take his citizenship away. We don’t think that’s such a far stretch anymore. Now he’s made sure all of our passports are in order and we have copies of his paperwork, including his DD-214, in more than one location. He’s been told by past coworkers that assumed he sought their approval that he’s “one of the good ones”. Maybe they will shield him if things get out of hand. Hopefully we never have to deal with some vigilante going off doing the lord’s work and taking matters into their own hands. [/quote] You should be afraid of armed vigilantes with torches and pitch forks who take it upon themselves to capture "illegals." Mobs aren't smart enough to discern whether you belong here. Look at the Sikhs who got murdered after 9-11. Even Hispanic people got accused of being "Arabs." Look at Trump's praise of the Charlottesville mob. He will encourage this. [/quote][/quote] +1 this is what I fear: vigilantes going around rounding up "them illegals". I am Asian American; DH is a white European immigrant. I told DH that if we went to war with China, I could easily see the MAGA mob trying to round up all the "chin*s", including me because I look like one even though I'm not Chinese. Those mobs wouldn't stop to ask for papers or where you're really from. They just attack. Look at how many Asian Americans were beat up during covid because people thought those Asian Americans brought covid in, and that included patients yelling at Asian American doctors who were trying to help them. This type of hysteria is what Trump is good at stoking. It's frightening.[/quote] Yup. My kids are Korean. I've always been worried about a war with North Korea, because I most certainly do not trust my neighbors to know the difference between North Korea and South Korea. People are stupid, and if the government tries any form of mass deportation, it will make life extraordinarily difficult for people of color, regardless of their actual legal status. Which of course is a feature, not a bug for the MAGAs[/quote] [i]During World War II, the United States forcibly relocated and incarcerated about 120,000 people of Japanese descent in ten concentration camps operated by the War Relocation Authority (WRA), mostly in the western interior of the country. Approximately two-thirds of the detainees were United States citizens. These actions were initiated by Executive Order 9066, issued by President Franklin D. Roosevelt on February 19, 1942, following Imperial Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor, Guam, the Philippines, and Wake Island in December 1941.[/i] [u]FDR was a democrat.[/u][/quote] And today, it's the MAGA Trump camp that would want to do this. TODAY, Dems aren't the ones wanting to round people up. They aren't the ones stoking fears in white America about the replacement theory, or how MX is sending over rapists and murderers.[/quote] You are lying. Why were Japanese Americans interned during World War II? After Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor, the U.S. War Department suspected that Japanese Americans might act as espionage agents for Japan, despite a lack of evidence. Republicans don’t think illegal immigrants are spying on America. President Roosevelt, as commander-in-chief, issued Executive Order 9066 that resulted in the internment of Japanese Americans. The order authorized the Secretary of War and military commanders to evacuate all persons deemed a threat from the West Coast to internment camps, that the government called "relocation centers," further inland. FDR put [u]American citizens[/u] in concentration camps. Republicans don’t have any plan or intent to deport American citizens. Deporting people who are illegally in the US is not equivalent to putting American citizens in concentration camps, like democrats did. [/quote] Yes, FDR did that, mostly at the behest of white farmers who were jealous of the success that Japanese American farmers were having. Let's recap: MAGA want to execute a mass deportation. How will that be achieved? They will do a massive sweep, and when they ask "show me your papers" many Americans won't have papers on them, so they will be tossed in with illegal immigrants. There is historical precedent of mass deportation, under Eisenhower (R). https://www.history.com/news/operation-wetback-eisenhower-1954-deportation[/quote] [u]The program became a contentious issue in Mexico–United States relations, even though it originated from a request by the Mexican government to stop the illegal entry of Mexican laborers into the United States. [/u]Legal entry of Mexican workers for employment was at the time controlled by the Bracero Program, established during World War II by an agreement between the U.S. and Mexican governments. Operation Wetback was primarily a response to pressure from a broad coalition of farmers and business interests concerned with the effects of illegal immigration from Mexico.[3] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback As the U.S. entered World War II, it found itself in need of agricultural labor. So it instituted the Bracero Program, which allowed about 4.6 million Mexicans to cross the border legally. By the early '50s, tens of thousands of U.S. service members were coming home to a postwar recession. [i]According to an essay published by the congressional Office of the Historian, President Truman ordered an inquiry that eventually placed much of the blame for the country's social ills at the time on illegal immigration. One memorable line from the report stated: "The magnitude ... has reached entirely new levels in the past seven years. ... In its newly achieved proportions, it is virtually an invasion."[/i] When Eisenhower took over, his immigration commissioner unveiled "Operation Wetback," a short-lived, military-style operation that the government estimated to have rounded up more than 1 million people. Truman was a democrat. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/11/11/455613993/it-came-up-in-the-debate-here-are-3-things-to-know-about-operation-wetback In 1950, Truman established a Presidential Commission on Migratory Labor to examine “the extent of illegal migration of foreign workers into the United States.” The next year, Truman signed legislation to protect farmers’ ability to hire legal migrants as farm laborers, while decrying illegal immigration. The legislation set up centers where immigrants from Mexico could stay while the U.S. government matched them with jobs. Still, Truman worried that illegal immigration was a threat to the jobs of both U.S. citizens and legal immigrants. He called for legislation that would provide punishments for employers who harbored illegal immigrants, but Congress declined to pass it. During Truman’s nearly eight years in office, about 3.4 million were deported or left "voluntarily" under threat of deportation. https://www.boundless.com/blog/truman/#:~:text=In%201950%2C%20Truman%20established%20a,laborers%2C%20while%20decrying%20illegal%20immigration. I find it fascinating you omit Truman from the narrative. However, your narrative includes Carnival cruise ships being commandeered to deport illegal immigrants to death camps under MAGA, and Globemaster military aircraft being fitted with “slave bunks” to deport illegal immigrants to death camps. Where are the death camps going to be built, again? [/quote]
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