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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The law allows schools to have a diverse student body. You need to change the law. [/quote] The law allows schools to use racial discrimination in order to have a diverse student body. Maybe if that were the official ruling, we can at least confront reality and move on with our lives.[/quote] I guess you should move on. Describe it as you wish but Harvard’s holistic admission process was found to be legal. The holistic admission standard has been ruled on in quite a few cases and it has been upheld repeatedly. [/quote] If true, courts may have done that to give ammunition to employers to “holistically” evaluate their applicants and employees. As Harvard uses holistic evaluation, corporate America uses holistic evaluation in evaluating Harvard URM’s watered-down degrees. [/quote] See it as you will. I understand you will not hire any black people and that is ok. But Asians numbers in corporate America are not good so it might backfire on you.[/quote] Not many Asians go into business, finance, mba, so it’s not critical Asians need to shine in those areas. Asians typically don’t go into sports either.[/quote] According to the economist Fifteen years later Asians are still under-represented. Some 11% of associates at American law firms are Asian, but only 3% of partners are. In technology Asians make up over 30% of the workers but less than 15% of bosses. In 2017 Asians made up roughly 6% of the country’s population but only 3% (16) of the bosses of s&p 500 firms. https://www.economist.com/business/2020/02/29/indian-v-chinese-bosses-in-america-inc[/quote] Looking for Asians in top positions in the US is not unlike looking for whites in Africa or blacks in Asia. [/quote] OK you were posting that blacks did not have good outcomes. I was merely pointing out that the huge proportion of Asian students going to elite schools have similarly poor outcomes if that is the standard. Again, I do not have a problem with anyone or the standard i just think if you are going to repeatedly post URMs under preform you should be aware that the huge contingent of Asians at elite schools have the same outcomes. both groups do worse than whites.[/quote] Do you have a study showing Asian ivy alums do poorly? I’ve seen a study that shows black H alums don’t do all that great. [/quote] Funny, when the Asian discrimination investigation started the school stopped publishing compensation numbers by race. Here is the breakout for 2019 but it only goes as far as male and female now. https://features.thecrimson.com/2019/senior-survey/after-harvard/ I do not think there will be any more information released by race in the future.[/quote] Your link provides only general info. One study that shows Harvard grads outcome is an interesting study showing undergraduate origin of of Harvard law and medical schools. These schools are not majority Harvard undergraduate students. In fact Harvard routinely reject Harvard undergraduates in favor of state university graduates. So one conclusion from the study is that H isn’t all that. Harvard graduates, blacks, Asians, or whites are routinely rejected when competing with state university grads. It does not show white H grads do better than Asian Harvard grads. [/quote]
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