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Oh you can stuff it.  Please, detail here all the progressive, labor-rights policies you advocate for?

Regularlizing immigration is PRECISELY to protect workers right.  Having an "illegal" class of workers is a recipe for exploitation.  [/quote]

Stuff it? I thought you're all about intelligent debate and research and whatnot?

You have this weird, utopic idea that illegal migrants who put up with low pay, terrible conditions, and utter absence of employee rights for no reason other than not being able to work better jobs, will continue working in the same terrible jobs once they are legally able to work anywhere else.  Why? You think they are loyal to their slumlords?

The industries that rely on illegal migrant labor aren't doing it because they love migrants. They do it because they love paying artificially low wages and ignoring benefits and employee rights.  That's what you are arguing should be preserved.  And you are somehow persisting in your conviction that people who currently eat margarine because they can't have butter will weirdly continue doing that even when butter becomes available. [/quote]

My cleaning lady is a legal immigrant (chain migration). Her brother works on a farm in the Midwest (also legal). Their kids are not going to take these types of jobs - they are working hard to get educations. They are the classic American immigrant story.

So yes, when people get regularized, they stay in jobs native born Americans don’t want but hopefully have some social protections.  Their kids won’t stay in those jobs. [/quote]

Do they charge the same as the illegals charge?  Leaving aside the matter of "social protections" for your cleaning lady.

I don't know what their kids have to do with all this.  [/quote]

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