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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm the middle-aged PP. Not really interested in providing too many details but I'll provide one. My grandparents weren't married. One set were single and the other set called themselves married, lived their whole lives together but never got the piece of paper (basically common-law but it wasn't recognized in their country). So my parents were ashamed of being "illegitimate" and hid that/ lied about it. [/quote]

What stopped them from getting married?
I mean ,  if it's a source of shame, why didn't they Marry?[/quote]

I don't know the truth. I never met my grandparents. From what I can gather, in one case, my grandfather dumped my grandmother for someone else but I have wondered there was an affair element to it although everyone denies that.

In the other case (the common law ones), my parent said their parents were too poor to marry but my grandparents first kids were born before the depression and I've always heard stories about how they were rich before the depression but lost everything. I don't know if my grandparents were ashamed. I do know my parent was ashamed. My grandparents were together their whole life and had six kids so I don't get it either. The one thing I do know is that a couple of my grandmother's sisters and my mom's cousins were in common-law situations or had kids born out of wedlock. The country had a reported very low illegitimacy rate though so I don't get it. (My great-grandparents were married so some did marry.) Again, I really just don't know the truth.   [/quote]

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