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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hacker school PP here.

You'll notice that some posters will refer to having degrees in "IT" or having the "IT" department [b]outsourced. No respectable tech firm puts testing in the IT department[/b] - that's for buying monitors and replacing keyboards when they break.

You want a job in "computer science" or "software engineering," these are the jobs that are on the rise and will never be outsourced. Be careful of the advice you're getting and be wary of ops people bemoaning the end of software when in reality it's because they [b]don't have the skills to compete[/b]. [/quote]

Bullcrap! How many years of experience do you have?

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I'm not the PP but I own a software company and know many people in the business. That PP is correct -- the IT department isn't product development or testing. It would be a separate department IF you're at a software company. That's not Fortune 500 companies -- it's companies that produce software to sell it to others.. not those that produce software for internal use.[/quote]

Yes - that was my point. If you work for a company that is at its core not a tech company - aka it is not developing new technology, then sure, you run the risk of being outsourced because you are a cost, not a profit center. But the tech industry is growing like crazy, and these companies consider testing a core part of their business. These jobs will never be outsourced to India, and in fact tech companies are hiring ridiculously inexperienced people at what IMHO are extremely high salaries.

If you're talented, you will easily find yourself a job at an actual tech company, not some place that thinks of programmers as monkeys that can be offshored to India. You will enjoy fantastic benefits as well because tech companies are dying to hire good talent. I get an absurd number of recruiting inbounds on LinkedIn even though I'm not looking - which is why I'm convinced that the posters who are moaning about their jobs being outsourced aren't actually engineers. They sound like ops or IT techs.[/quote]

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