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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We currently have one child in the AAP class at FHES. I am very disappointed and shocked at the decision FHES has made. Having experienced the program as it stands, I have to agree that FHES is dismantling its AAP curricula. We have not had any issues of cliques and kids not wanting to be with each other in the APP class. In our experience having kids together that want to learn more and have the capacity to excel resulted in everyone nudging each other forward. Saying that all kids can learn social studies and science at an advanced level is absurd. We would never say that about kids in a traveling vs. non traveling soccer team. The school could have met their objective of more intermingling by letting the kids have specials, lunch, and recess together. If you want an environment of peers where your child will be encouraged to do their best in academics don't stay at FHES. If you think the social aspects of school are important and the transition to a new school will be too much for your 8 year old, then, stay at FHES. The emotional well-being of children is also important. [/quote]

Also, I don't understand the need for gifted kids to be surrounded by peers to encourage them. Aren't they supposed to be self motivated?[/quote]

Nope, giftedness is high intellectual ability, not self motivation. [/quote]

I'll take your comment more seriously when you can give specifics to why general ed kids can't do the AAP science curriculum like I asked.[/quote]

I am not the poster to whom you are asking this question.

It is not that general ed kids cannot do AAP science curriculum. My experience with kids, which is not a whole lot beyond what I saw from volunteering at my child's class - but which I do quite a bit, is that there is a large difference between kids in the rates at which they pick up new stuff. I am not sure if we can really call this giftedness, it does not mean the rest are dumb. Maybe those who take time to absorb information, the way it is currently taught might not be the best approach for them. But for whatever reason, there is a big difference in the speed with which kids can understand concepts and apply them. AAP is really separating out kids on this basis. I do not think even the best of teachers could do much when you have a bunch of kids that take in information at vastly different speeds. It invariably ends up at the pace of the slowest student.

My child learns best not when I sit with her with paper and pencil, but when she is sitting in traffic, taking a walk or when we are just doing nothing. I taught her most of the math in this manner. But this way she picks up math concepts really quickly and she got into the habit of visualizing numbers. If she had been introduced to math in class I suspect she would be deemed slow. Just by accident, she ended up being very good at math. I shudder to think how many kids are being hindered by the way some of the subjects are taught. I do not blame teachers or the educational system, it is just very very tough to figure out the best way to teach something to different kids.

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The way they do the AAP math is that they basically skip 3rd grade math and teach 4th grade math and then the next year teach 5th grade math and so on. I don't think Flint Hill ever taught more than 1 grade above. So really, in that class, they were still going over 1 year's worth of curriculum, not more. A child that was advanced at math, might eventually get bored anyway. And there are so many redshirted kids, that many of them probably got the same instruction in math if they were in AAP as they would have if they were in general ed without being redshifted. So even in AAP math, Flint Hill wasn't teaching more than one year's worth of curriculum. Science and Social studies from what I see are taught on an alternating 3 week cycle about 3 hours a week. They are broken into units of study and there is only so much that can be taught and absorbed on the unit in 9 hours. My question to you is can you give an example of something that would be taught in one of these 9 week cycles that a general ed student from Flint Hill Elementary couldn't do during the time allotted? Because they are teaching the AAP curriculum to all of them, so really it shouldn't affect an AAP child as much as a general ed child. What particularly are you worried about missing out on in 3rd grade? I'd be specific if you are trying to figure out what the changes are because otherwise they'll just say they're teaching the AAP curriculum to all and there are no changes from last year with the curriculum. You should find out what the hardest projects and work the kids did this year and then check if they are still teaching these next year.[/quote]

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