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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You really do have to take a step back and chuckle at the stupid tangents these threads go off on. Exactly why are we arguing about Holton-Arms SAT average?[/quote]

Because some Holton booster cited what turned out to be incorrect data to somehow imply that Holton girls are smarter than students at the smartest public colleges. That very first post was totally irrelevant to the conversation and then it snowballed.

I have a kid at one of the top schools on the list (as an OOS student). What the data doesn't show is the difference between OOS and IS scores, or the impact that engineering schools have on the averages. Of course all of those contribute to the college being  "smarter", but certainly at my DCs college the CofE and the OOS students are seen to be smarter than the IS students.[/quote]

I'll buy that point about engineering students bringing up averages, that makes sense. Not so sure about that second claim that OOS students are doing the same. That probably used to be the case, and may still be so where your kid goes, particularly if it's a public ivy, but nowadays with colleges hungry for those hefty non-resident fees, it's often much easier for an OOS student to get in, and the competition is far fiercer among the IS kids. That's certainly the case at UMCP, and my alma mater the University of Florida.[/quote]

I think you are both correct - top tier publics can "deman" higher stats (higher than IS kids - UVA, UNC for example) and full pay whereas the second tier schools just need the money. For them (the second tiers) there are enough IS kids with high stats to raise the avg score (UMD as an example). [/quote]

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