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[quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele]I'm not sure that you are in a position to understand how residents of Gaza feel about anything. You are clearly not in a position to determine where they should live. Attitudes such as yours in which Palestinians are subhuman pawns to be moved around to Israel's advantage are a huge part of the problem.
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I dont consider Gazans to be subhuman pawns at all.  I think they are being exploited by Hamas who are supposed to be their leaders and should be given a chance to make a new life for themselves outside of Hamas' control.  If anything, I want to empower them in a way that Hamas does not do. I did not suggest wholesale moving them, I suggested giving them the offer. It would be their choice. [/quote]

If you want to marginalize Hamas, lift the blockade, remove the buffer zone, and encourage economic investment. Instead of creating an environment of hopelessness that feeds Hamas, create an environment in which people are improving their lives. People with nothing to lose will likely support Hamas or groups like it. Given them something to lose and they won't be so eager for conflict.
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If you can suggest a way to do that while ensuring Israel's safety, i.e. wont allow for them to bring in weapons and build more tunnels with the cement and steel like they have been doing, I am all ears. But if Hamas was demilitarize and give up terrorism, then there is no negotiation. [/quote]

Hamas will re-arm and rebuild the tunnels no matter what. The only difference will be whether the environment created is one in which the weapons and tunnels will be used against Israel. I assume that you realize that for all but one of the last six years, cement was embargoed. Most of the tunnels were built without the help of legally imported cement. So, will the next ones if necessary.
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Why will they do this "no matter what"?  That sounds very pessimistic.[/quote]

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