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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think a big problem with conversations about faith between believers and non-believers, is the use of the bible as a source. Believers believe the bible is truth while atheists don't. We cannot have a discussion where one person is using a source that the other thinks is completely in left field. The believer thinks that by completely dismissing the bible, the atheist is being disrespectful. I don't know how to get past this first barrier of contention. [/quote]

This, completely and whole heartedly.

I think we see the terrible examples (on either side) posting on dcum.

I do enjoy reading a good discussion about religion.  I left the church and won't go back, but I still enjoy reading and yes, even debating and asking questions.  Not to be rude or disrespectful but because I simply don't get it.  Quoting the bible does nothing to explain it to me.  That's when I get annoyed.

I know why I left the church.  When I reference that I'm referring to [b]myself.[/b]. not every believer posting on a thread on dcum.  Yet my views are seen as disrespectful.  Maybe I don't always make sense but that's because I don't have everything all figured out.[/quote]

Different poster here: I left the church for a different reason. I just can't see taking my kids to church after all the scandals. If god is everywhere, let them find god at home. If "they'll know we are Christians by our love," as the hymn goes, then the church is comprised of the biggest hypocrites of all for consistently denying the scandals, making ad hominem attacks at victims, making secret settlements, transferring priests to other parishes ... need I go on? This scandal has proceeded for decades. Note that such scandals are not limited to the Catholic church. If in doubt, Google it.

Compared to that, any minor mistakes, insensitivity, improper grammar or "mean" posts by atheists on DCUM are utterly meaningless.[/quote]

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