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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Can we rename this thread "religious families - how to brainwash children"?[/quote]

Don't be obnoxious. [/quote]

There is an element of that in a lot of these posts. If you take out the religious context that "everyone" accepts as appropriate, and replace the religious elements with communist elements, we have:

Thread Title: [b]Do your children easily love [the Party]?[/b]

[quote]It was an every day, 24-7 sort of thing, not some boring thing that we attended for one hour every week, under duress. Also, in school, they weave all the [Party] lessons into everything, so again, it's not set aside as one boring hour a week when you have to go to [Party Class] with kids you do not even know, who do not go to your regular school. [/quote]

Or:

[quote]My children attend a [Party] program called [insert name]. The classroom setting is called the Atrium, so many people refer to it as that. My children have developed a relationship with [Dear Leader] at a very young age. it's much more personal than the classroom [Party] ed programs. [/quote]

Or:

[quote]Our [Local Party Chapter] is focused on the idea that to develop and sustain faith, you need roughly five adults (who are not you) pouring into & interacting with your child on a regular basis. I think the concept comes from a series of books called Orange & Parenting Beyond Your Capacity. This could be [Party Education] teachers, scout leaders, your own friends, a [Party] youth [representative], other adult volunteers with youth [Party], sports coaches who model good values, etc. Our [Party] youth [representative] also really emphasizes how much time children spend with parents vs. the [Party] - we can't expect our [Party] to do all of this spiritual development. Even if you're there for three events/week (unlikely for most families), that's only six hours out of the many more that parents spend with their kids. So talking about faith & modeling it at home is the first step, and then finding a community that will support and your sustain your efforts is the next most important thing.

I have a young child at this point, so it's easier talking about [Communism] with her at this stage of life. It permeates our home life...[/quote]

Or:

[quote]I want my children to love [Dear Leader]. I want them to be faithful [Party] boys and faithful [Party] men one day. I want this because I have very sincere beliefs that cause me to know that a strong faith has enriched my life in countless ways. I want them to be similarly enriched. So you may think it is weird that I want my kids to love [Dear Leader], but that is just a normal thing for people who truly believe. We want to share that belief. That belief brings us joy that we would never want to keep to ourselves. [/quote]

I'm not doing this to be obnoxious, and I do honestly think there's a difference between believing in God and being a devout Party member. Despite my saying that, I know that there are some people who are going to be insulted by the implicit comparison. I'm simply putting these words in a different belief context to show how they look when the authors aren't talking about religion, and they do have a significant element of indoctrination to them.

Now compare that to -

[quote]I would like for my kids to love and find comfort in [the Party], but know I do not control this - that I can only expose/introduce them to [Communism] in various ways. In raising them as I have ... my hope is that they develop enough of a "faith muscle" to enable them to seek out [the Party] on their own when they want or need that. I know from personal experience that faith waxes and wanes, but OTOH for me, the comfort of the liturgy, especially during difficult times, does not. I hope I have given them enough of a foundation that they seek this out for themselves as adults. [/quote]

That's respecting your kids, teaching them, and allowing them to make their own choices. [/quote]

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