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[quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]it's called healthy debate.... isn't that the hallmark of a civil society?  To discuss the laws that affect the many?
Keep an eye on Catania's city-wide DC proposals as well.  I think some are sound, some less so.  If passed, they affect the entire city.  Civil society can support, challenge, debate these things.  The impact is great.[/quote]

If it was a healthy debate, they would provide examples of their concerns with the standards.  In any of this, have you seen them describe actual problems with these standards?  I haven't.[/quote]

The problem is the standards have not been tested - it's a huge experiment thrust on our kids.[/quote]

The standards are being used right now in a number of states and the District of Columbia. Can you point out any problems that have resulted?
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For how long? That's the issue - what's the long-term affect? The colleges already complain they are getting robots with legs applying, not students who think. How will this encourage kids to actually think?  We don't know a damn thing in that regard. And the poor it's supposed to help? Any teacher will tell you that when kids are being made fun of, bullied, etc. in their neighborhood schools because they want to learn, they stop to protect themselves. If you think for one moment that changing the curriculum is going to help these students, you're in denial. What works is getting the kids that want to learn OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS and into other schools where they can learn safely. Which is why when Obama pulled vouchers, the public went mad.

My daughter asked to be pulled from her public high school into private because she said she was being taught to memorize to a test and was learning nothing at all. In fact, she said what she did learn, she was teaching herself. She's in private now and the difference is huge. And she was in one of the top Virginia schools. The teachers now bribe the kids to do well on the SOL's, are you aware of that?

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