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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]When has a student’s behavior ever been the teacher’s fault?

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Not the behavior, but the lack of skills to manage the situation. In my experience behavior problems could be easily managed by good teachers.[/quote]

I’ve been teaching for over 20 years and I have strong classroom management.

Student behavior has changed dramatically. A teacher’s toolkit (the ways we can address behavior) has been greatly diminished by administrative policies.

You can’t compare what we experienced decades ago to a modern classroom. [/quote]

Can you be specific about what tools have been taken away? I don't doubt you, I just want to understand specifically what teachers are no longer allowed to do.

FWIW, I also feel like some of my tools as a parent have been deemed socially unacceptable. I often feel I am the only parent in our peer group who actually disciplines my kid, and I get side eye when I do things like make my kid go home if she cannot play well with others or denies her a treat due to poor behavior. At the same time that it feels discipline is no longer acceptable, I also get judgment for encouraging my child to exercise independence, such as having her play at the playground across the street on her own (she's 10, I can see her from my office window) or walk home from school alone.

I feel the default parenting for UMC parents is (1) give your kid whatever they want regardless of behavior but (2) never let them out if your sight until age 13. I think it leads to a lot of entitled, helpless behavior.[/quote]

Tools that have been taken away:
student loses out on recess or even just a few minutes of recess
student loses out on indoor playtime or even just a few minutes of it
student loses chance to participate in a special activity
time out (in my private school, we cannot give time outs)
detention or having to stay after school
most suspensions
most expulsions (in public)
being able to make a kid sit outside the room for a few minutes in the hall
school wide-teachers are discouraged from making their kids be quiet in the hall
some parents no longer back teachers up

Everything is about understanding kids feelings.  We use OT referrals in our school as a behavior management technique.  And yeah, we do need to understand kids' emotions and OT is often helpful. Yes, we have grown in our understanding of helping kids to learn how to self regulate.  We've just gone a little too far. I'm not saying punishment is the best or first defense.  But to never punish?  (not talking about hitting) To never make a kid lose out on a favorite activity?  And when you have 1 student with very challenging needs, that's one thing.  But when you have the year that you have 4 or 5?  That's a whole different level of crazy.  [/quote]

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